Do I have a 64bit processor or what?

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Please can you help me understand something.

I recently bought a brand new Pentium D processor from Rectron with the following specs

Intel Pentium D - 930 - 3.0Ghz, 2 x 2 MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB, Dual-Core, XD+EIST+EM64T, 65NM

As you can see it implies that it is a 64 bit processor.

The confusing bit for me is that when I put in my fancy MSDN disk with all the windows operating systems on it, it does not give me the option to install winXP64. Which makes me think it is detecting that the chip is not 64bit.

When I look in the BIOS it refers to the chip as 64 bit "capable".

System info says that the chip is a "Processor x86 Family 15 Model 6 Stepping 2 GenuineIntel ~3000 Mhz"

I am confused. Can anyone tell my if this chip is a 64 bit chip? Do you think the MSDN disk is a bit dodge?
 
why o why did you buy an intel

take it back and tell them you didnt know intel was a kuk cpu can you swop it for an amd
 
Person said:
what board do you have ?
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Intel® (Tappen-Excecutive Series ) Desktop Board D945GTP - Intel® 945G Chipset, Supports Intel® Pentium® D
Pentium® 4, Celeron D processors in the LGA775 socket with 533/800/1066 MHz FSB, 4 x DDR2 SDRAM sockets
Supports DDR2 400/533/667MHz up to 4 GB, Intel® GMA950 onboard graphics, Intel® High Definition Audio :
Flexible 6-channel audio with jack sensing , 4 x USB2.0 Back Ports, 1 x serial, 1 x parallel, 4 x Serial ATA2,
1 x Parallel ATA IDE, 1 x diskette drive interface,*2 x PCI,*1 x PCI Express x1, , 1 x PCI Express x16, Intel PRO
10/100/1000 Network Connection -Intel Matrix storage technology (NCQ,RAID 0, 1, 10, 5& Matrix Raid)
Trusted Platform Module
 
killadoob said:
yes if you want a slower cpu for the same price or a higher price then there is nothing wrong
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My previous machine was and AMD and I always had a problem with sound. Agreed that it was probably the motherboard and not the chip, but I didn't want to take the chance.
 
EM64T Stands for Extended memory 64 bit Technology. However, Intel state that it is not true 64 bit. The cache has the ability to understand 64 bit addressing, but not 64 bit commands. Basically what this gives you is the ability to use 64 bit addresses, which increases the amount of useable memory available you. However, it does not mean that the memory stores 64 bit commands. Many people get confused with this, and the name is very misleading. The processor is not a 64 bit processor at all. The Xeon is 64 bit, Pentium is not. Simple as that. Intel have stated they will probably not release a 64 bit Pentium this year even. But they feel it is unnecessary. There is not enough high quality 64 bit processors out there but the need for more memory availability is. So they add the 64 bit memory addressing, and voila you have a 32 bit OS capable of addressing 64 bits worth of memory addresses. Intel was supposed to release a Windows patch via MS to allow the OS to understand 64 bit addressing, but I don't think it ever happened.
 
AMD have proper 64 bit processors, in that the actual commands are 64 bit, running through a 64 bit bus. They are cut back in a lot of features, in comparison to say the 64 bit Opteron, or Intels 64 bit Itanium, but they are a true 64 bit processor. I suppose you could say that the AMD 64 bit Athlon's are to the Opteron what Intel's Celeron was to the Pentium. Although both work, the Opteron has a more complex instruction set, which means that it gets more done in a single pass than the Athlons do. But there is definitely nothing wrong with the Athlon. Only problems I have is that we are still waiting for 64 bit Software to make it to market. For example, how long do you think it will take before they start introducing games that use the full functionality of 64 bit processing. MS Office runs on 64 bit platform but is still 32 bit. So until they introduce Software that is designed for 64 bit OS, I will wait with my 32 bit proc.

PS. Does anyone know of any 64 bit games or major software packages due out, apart from an OS?
 
that truely suicks mate. i hate it when things arnt what it seems to be.

like me a year back...i had R2000 for a upgrade so i got the amd athlon 64 3000+ an the gigabyte amd athlon64 "NFORCE4" sli mobo. i thought the nforce4 chipset was a onboard vga. and in the end i had to pay R1500 extra for a Ati radeon x700pro. man that sucks.;)
 
Question: What gave you the impression it was a 64bit processor. Was it the EM64T bit, or did someone tell you it is. Because a lot of people are being mislead by people who are not properly informed. If someone told you that it was a 64 bit processor, maybe inform them otherwise. And if it was someone who sold it to you as a "64 bit" processor, inform them as well, and maybe suggest a bit of compensation for the misleading advertising they put in. Maybe score a upgrade of some sort for free, like maybe a Combo drive to DVD writer. Most guys would normally be happy to do so as long as they can keep you as a customer, and to avoid you blurting that they are a useless bunch who don't really know there stuff. Otherwise, all I can say, is next time you decide to buy something, research it properly beforehand. If you buy an Intel chip, check with Intel what it is capable of. If it Nvidia Graphics, check with Nvidia what the chipset is capable of. If it is a BMW, make sure that sale specs are what BMW says the vehicle has, etc.. I've found in the modern day that sales people are so concerned about their commision and making as many sales as possible, that they don't actually know what they are really selling. If I sell you a PC, I can tell you every single capability of the machine. If I buy a car, I can tell you what air capacity goes into the airbags, etc. I make sure I know all that, because it can make a hell of a difference.
 
The Big Firefly said:
like me a year back...i had R2000 for a upgrade so i got the amd athlon 64 3000+ an the gigabyte amd athlon64 "NFORCE4" sli mobo. i thought the nforce4 chipset was a onboard vga. and in the end i had to pay R1500 extra for a Ati radeon x700pro. man that sucks.;)
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OK, this don't make sense. You buy a mobo with a Nvidia chipset, but get an ATI graphics card. You do realise that with the Nvidia chipset that the board is optimised to understand nVidia driver code, and can be used to optimise reaction time in getting the stuff to the card, in order to ensure that the bandwidth etc is properly used. Put an ATI card in there and you're back to standard generic capability of the board, and the throughput on the bus is wasted. But not to worry dude. You'd only really notice those optimizations if you were running Nvidia SLI. However, with ATI, you're not going to see that. And I'm sure you're aware that ATI's Crossfire won't work on that board. Early SLI boards it would, but Nvidia hardcode that the board doesn't support it now. You may be lucky, but I suggest that if you do go dual graphics card, move back to NVidia, or try find a board with an ATI Crossfire chipset. (Good luck). Those are usually going to be Intel boards.
 
Well you really not missing much with WinXp 64 Bit so I wouldn't worry about it to be honest.
 
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