Do i have a fine ?

Don't lose any sleep over it. You do however have to pay if you signed for it.
 
Bliksis said:
Don't lose any sleep over it. You do however have to pay if you signed for it.
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I agree seeing it was send over the post don't lose any sleep over that but get the car off your name as soon as possible.
 
Some bad advice here. The license dept can even not refuse to issue a licence disk to force you to pay fines. That is extortion by definition and a criminal offence. Just proceed with paying for the disk, get a receipt and open a criminal case. You're covered once it goes to court.

Ignore all fines untill you get served with a summons, which is extremely unlikely to ever materialise. Then defend the matter by presenting the facts that the car was sold.

In the interim, try to deregister/scrap the car.

Get sleep.

Deregister on that Pay Fines platform. It is aimed at fishing for motorists' personal information and influence the gullible to pay fines where the authorities are too inept to do their jobs.
 
Pax said:
Some bad advice here. The license dept can even not refuse to issue a licence disk to force you to pay fines. That is extortion by definition and a criminal offence. Just proceed with paying for the disk, get a receipt and open a criminal case. You're covered once it goes to court.

Ignore all fines untill you get served with a summons, which is extremely unlikely to ever materialise. Then defend the matter by presenting the facts that the car was sold.

In the interim, try to deregister/scrap the car.

Get sleep.

Deregister on that Pay Fines platform. It is aimed at fishing for motorists' personal information and influence the gullible to pay fines where the authorities are too inept to do their jobs.
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I really want to de-register from their site, but then i won't know if the person will pick up any more fines, summons not materialize ? It seems like this does happen to some people. I wish i had more info on this. Thanks for trying to help.

The problem is from the start the traffic dept sees it as me trying to get rid of the vehicle due to the outstanding arrears which is not the case because first we both did not anticipate these fees to skyrocket to the point that is impossible to pay, second, i offered the new owner to reverse the sale so i can get my car back and then there won't be issues between us, but he refused to reverse the sale.
 
RedViking said:
Get an affidavit and proof of sale.

You will need it for the both the fines and the vehicle. He is not putting the vehicle in his names so that he can speed and do what he likes.

Then go to municipality and write the vehicle off. You will need some things from them to do that.

You can probably still go and deregister the vehicle from your name.
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Traffic department see it as myself that was trying to get rid of the vehicle because of unpaid licensing fees, and like mentioned, the truth is the person liked the vehicle and i mentioned that it was 2 years in arrears, he accepted the vehicle, but then he waited a year extra only to see the license fees accumulating even more, they did not even want to look at my affidavit nor any of the forms nor the vehicle sales contract. I was told by them to go to the dept of transport and try and pay it off. I am without work currently, relying on help from family.

To scrap the vehicle they want the arrears on the outstanding license.
 
Nemesys said:
There are a few issues here.
1 When he bought the car from you, he is required by law to register it in his name within 21 days.
2 He is driving around in an unlicensed car.
3 He is committing traffic offences driving an unlicensed car.
I really think he is in more trouble than he thinks.
Supply the traffic authorities where the speeding fines were incurred with his name and address as the driver. of the car at the time.
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Does anyone know how i can send the affidavit, proof of sale and ticket numbers to municipalities in potchefstroom, carletonville and pretoria ? Only the western cape seem to have an email address where you can forward these details to.
 
richie2 said:
Traffic department see it as myself that was trying to get rid of the vehicle because of unpaid licensing fees, and like mentioned, the truth is the person liked the vehicle and i mentioned that it was 2 years in arrears, he accepted the vehicle, but then he waited a year extra only to see the license fees accumulating even more, they did not even want to look at my affidavit nor any of the forms nor the vehicle sales contract. I was told by them to go to the dept of transport and try and pay it off. I am without work currently, relying on help from family.

To scrap the vehicle they want the arrears on the outstanding license.
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Yeah I have seen people cry at license department due to arears. You really dont want that to happen. Tricky situation.
 
richie2 said:
Does anyone know how i can send the affidavit, proof of sale and ticket numbers to municipalities in potchefstroom, carletonville and pretoria ? Only the western cape seem to have an email address where you can forward these details to.
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Potchefstroom traffic department 018 299 5330
 
Pax said:
Some bad advice here. The license dept can even not refuse to issue a licence disk to force you to pay fines. That is extortion by definition and a criminal offence. Just proceed with paying for the disk, get a receipt and open a criminal case. You're covered once it goes to court.

Ignore all fines untill you get served with a summons, which is extremely unlikely to ever materialise. Then defend the matter by presenting the facts that the car was sold.

In the interim, try to deregister/scrap the car.

Get sleep.

Deregister on that Pay Fines platform. It is aimed at fishing for motorists' personal information and influence the gullible to pay fines where the authorities are too inept to do their jobs.
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the enatis system cant print the paid for liscence disc untill the arrears is paid .you cannot derregister or scrap a car untill the arrears are paid .enatis is a bugger when it comes to that .by the time you get the summons you also cannot get the 50%discount pay fines can give you ,that expires after 32 days if issue .
 
the other problem is if you dont pay them and the summons and warrants are issued you cannot then do payment over pay fines ,you then have to go to your local SAP or to the traffic dept in each area to pay them or to try get discount from the prosecutor .i have drivers that get fines all over its a nightmare if you dont pay them .
 
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Question related to written fines where they write it out in front of you and hand it over. Do you still get a 50% discount if paying within 32 days? Got one 3 weeks ago for R500 and will try to pay it later today at PnP. Wondering what to say if I go to PnP and they say they want the full amount of R500 instead of R250.

I can't see the fine on paycity or ABSA, etc. Waited 3 weeks for it to maybe be loaded so I can pay it online. I assume these written ones are not loaded? They make it so difficult to pay a written fine and expect people to go and pay.
 
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Forum Reader said:
Question related to written fines where they write it out in front of you and hand it over. Do you still get a 50% discount if paying within 32 days? Got one 3 weeks ago for R500 and will try to pay it later today at PnP. Wondering what to say if I go to PnP and they say they want the full amount of R500 instead of R250.

I can't see the fine on paycity or ABSA, etc. Waited 3 weeks for it to maybe be loaded so I can pay it online. I assume these written ones are not loaded?
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that 50% only applies where its actually stated if its not stated somewhere it doesnt apply
 
Forum Reader said:
Question related to written fines where they write it out in front of you and hand it over. Do you still get a 50% discount if paying within 32 days? Got one 3 weeks ago for R500 and will try to pay it later today at PnP. Wondering what to say if I go to PnP and they say they want the full amount of R500 instead of R250.

I can't see the fine on paycity or ABSA, etc. Waited 3 weeks for it to maybe be loaded so I can pay it online. I assume these written ones are not loaded? They make it so difficult to pay a written fine and expect people to go and pay.
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go look on fines sa ,they themselves give the discount ,i find sometimes on payfines its not given either .its maybe an inhouse agreement
 
Snyper564 said:
that 50% only applies where its actually stated if its not stated somewhere it doesnt apply
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Aarto doesn't seem to differentiate between types of fines. Just says 50% discount in first 32 days.


A traffic fine issued in terms of the AARTO Act starts off with an infringement notice. The alleged infringer then has 32 days to:

  • Pay the penalty – at 50% discount;
  • Make representation to the RTIA;
  • Apply to pay in instalments;
  • Elect to be tried in Court; or
  • Nominate the driver if the registered owner was not the driver at the time of the alleged infringement.
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soulie said:
go look on fines sa ,they themselves give the discount ,i find sometimes on payfines its not given either .its maybe an inhouse agreement
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Signed up and checked. It's not on there as well. Got the fine on 26 March for not stopping at a stop sign. Payment due date is 26 June and court date in July. I just want to pay it and forget about it but can't find it online so need to find a place to physically pay it. Will try PnP tonight.

Here's where I got the fine. Stop sign surrounded by three no stopping signs with no crossway traffic. I somehow missed the stop sign and just slowly crept forward as it was clear. Then they pulled me over along with everyone else. They were writing fines for 5 vehicles at a time and were still not fast enough to do everyone. Easy money making scheme.

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Signed up and checked. It's not on there as well. Got the fine on 26 March for not stopping at a stop sign. Payment due date is 26 June and court date in July. I just want to pay it and forget about it but can't find it online so need to find a place to physically pay it. Will try PnP tonight.
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give it s few weeks,it takes around 3 weeks to get processed .i wouldnt worry about it yet
 
Forum Reader said:
Signed up and checked. It's not on there as well. Got the fine on 26 March for not stopping at a stop sign. Payment due date is 26 June and court date in July. I just want to pay it and forget about it but can't find it online so need to find a place to physically pay it. Will try PnP tonight.
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i hope it wasnt SAP that wrote the fine out
 
soulie said:
i hope it wasnt SAP that wrote the fine out
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32 days will be 27 April and that's next week. It was some Kempton Park traffic department. Wrote out ticket at OR Tambo. Will perhaps wait till next Tuesday (25th) just in case it comes up online.
 
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32 days will be 27 April and that's next week. It was some Kempton Park traffic department. Wrote out ticket at OR Tambo.
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if at kempton .pay it ,had nasty experiences with them before .if it has an easypay number pay it online and take a screenshot of the payment and receipt and keep it on your phone .easypay is quick ,but wait a bit first 27 hasnt come yet ,you may not get the discount at a retail till
 
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