Do I really need an SLR camera?

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Hiya everyone,

Im not really sure if I need an SLR camera. I was to buy a decent one, R5000 max, but am thinking that a SLR is not really what I need...cos it might be overkill for my use of it? Am I right? Will a decent R3000 - R4000 point and shoot camera suffice for my needs below or should I just invest in a SLR?

1. Want point and click. Our current cheapo camera...you push the button...and it takes the pic like 2 seconds later. VERY irritating!

2. Want something that can capture motion movement and not blur the image, current one is bad with this. Even if you move a little bit, it blurs it slightly.

3. A decent zoom, current point and shoot camera has a kark one

4. Picture quality...think we have a 6 mega pixel point and shoot. Cant say Im very impressed with the quality of the pictures, even when you get it just right.

So with the above in mind...will a decent R3000 - R4000 point and shoot make a difference, or should I just save up a bit more and go SLR? I dont know much at all about cameras...so ja, hoping you guys can give some insight? :confused: Thanks.
 
There are more skilled photographers on here to answer you in detail and give better advice...but my suggestion - get a bridge camera like the Canon S5 (or the successor). Easier and less hassle.
 
Hiya everyone,

Im not really sure if I need an SLR camera. I was to buy a decent one, R5000 max, but am thinking that a SLR is not really what I need...cos it might be overkill for my use of it? Am I right? Will a decent R3000 - R4000 point and shoot camera suffice for my needs below or should I just invest in a SLR?

1. Want point and click. Our current cheapo camera...you push the button...and it takes the pic like 2 seconds later. VERY irritating!

2. Want something that can capture motion movement and not blur the image, current one is bad with this. Even if you move a little bit, it blurs it slightly.

3. A decent zoom, current point and shoot camera has a kark one

4. Picture quality...think we have a 6 mega pixel point and shoot. Cant say Im very impressed with the quality of the pictures, even when you get it just right.

So with the above in mind...will a decent R3000 - R4000 point and shoot make a difference, or should I just save up a bit more and go SLR? I dont know much at all about cameras...so ja, hoping you guys can give some insight? :confused: Thanks.
All four of your areas are better served by a dslr.

The only thing a p&s can do better is fit in your pocket.
 
I'd reccomend after you have decided what camera to buy, to go to "Masons" in Benoni - they are VERY Cheap :o

http://www.masons.co.za/

If it's not on the website, phone 'em and ask for a price - you will NOT regret it.
 
1. Want point and click. Our current cheapo camera...you push the button...and it takes the pic like 2 seconds later. VERY irritating!

SLR here is the fastest. Bridge cameras do well here as well. Much faster than your cheapo point and shoot, but I still experiencea bit of lag on the bridge. You will have to play with a bridge camera at your local store to see if this bothers you or not.

2. Want something that can capture motion movement and not blur the image, current one is bad with this. Even if you move a little bit, it blurs it slightly.

On auto, even an SLR will can choose a shutter speed which will be slower to get more light in. The advantage of SLRs is that it can push higher ISO (which are more likely to be set in the advanced modes or sport modes) which allows faster shutter speed (and no blur). An SLR also allows the fitting of faster lenses (50mm 1.8 for ex) which helps as well.

3. A decent zoom, current point and shoot camera has a kark one

I think here a nice bridge camera 12x or more zoom will be sufficient. Again, SLR offers the advantage of being able to switch lenses. Here however is a cost disadvantage. Long lenses are expensive, and all in one zooms don't give you the best quality. If you are not prepared to switch lenses to get the zoom you want then I think a bridge/compact would be better.

4. Picture quality...think we have a 6 mega pixel point and shoot. Cant say Im very impressed with the quality of the pictures, even when you get it just right.

What are you going to do with your pics? Do you get the framing right most of the time or do you find yourself zooming in and cropping quite a bit? Most of the current P&S and bridge cameras do 12 Mpx which is MORE than enough. Again in good light IQ is quite comparable to a SLR with kit lenses.

As bwana mentioned the one big advantage of a bridge/compact is the size vs an SLR. Compacts are pocketable. This might be important for you depending on where and how you use your camera. A bridge/compact can suite your needs nicely - they ARE quite capable i.t.o the points you mentioned above.

If the size of the SLR does not bother you and neither does changing lenses I (IMHO) would go for the SLR. On a canon system for example, the quality of the 50mm 1.8 Lens and at the price point you pay is worth the extra you would spend on the SLR!
 
My wife uses a DSLR, and I use it too on occasion. It is really awesome to get the picture you want, after you study some basic photography. SLRs allow you to go very technical.

That being said, I still use our bride camera a lot. You get a great zoom range without the expense or hassle of interchangeable lenses. It is also very easy to carry around, and less expensive. I'm lucky because we have both, but as the previous posts said, depends on what you will be using it for.

P.S, bridge cameras work well for me, but i'm not a big fan of compacts.
 
The DSLR will take that pic waaaaay faster, and you can actually tweak custom settings to get max performance. But if you apply that same knowledge to a point and shoot (given you have to put it in manual mode - if you can). You can up your game tremendously without having to spend a cent.
 
Im not really sure if I need an SLR camera. I was to buy a decent one, R5000 max, but am thinking that a SLR is not really what I need...cos it might be overkill for my use of it? Am I right?

If you get a P&S, you might never discover that you have a talent for photography :cool:

The difference?

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I leave you to guess which one is which :rolleyes:
 
Hiya everyone,
4. Picture quality...think we have a 6 mega pixel point and shoot. Cant say Im very impressed with the quality of the pictures, even when you get it just right.
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There are many more factors that determine the quality of a picture than just megapixels. There's no use having 10, or 100 megapixels if they're all "low quality" megapixels. If you're not going to be cropping your photos, do you really need dozens of megapixels? 1024x768 is less than 1 megapixel, Full HD (1920x1080) is 2 megapixels.* If you're email or uploading photos online, or having them printed as normal sized photos, do you think you'll be able to notice the difference between 6 and 60 megapixels?

I had a 5 megapixel point and shoot, my dSLR has 8. That 60% extra megapixels brought nowhere near 60% better image. The photos on my dSLR looked better for other reasons.

There are several reasons why dSLRs (usually) take better quality photos than point an shoots:
1. The sensor on a dSLR is much, much larger. Other things being equal, if you're taking a photo of the same thing, more light falls on the dSLR's sensor. More light = bigger signal = less noise. This is one of the reasons that dSLRs perform better at higher ISOs (light sensitivity) than point and shoots. Sensor chart: The lower end dSLRs use a 1.5 or 1.6x crop factor. Guess which sizes most point and shoots are :P

2. Because dSLRs have bigger sensors, they have a shallow depth of field. Depth of field is the part of the photo that is in focus. If you have a shallow or thin depth of field, you can take photos where your subject is in focus and everything out gets more blurred the further away it is from your subject.

3. More of an opinion than a fact, but the lenses on SLRs are better: you'll have less distortion (straight lines looking curved), chromatic abberation (purple (and other colour) fringes that didn't exist as the scene looks in real life), and less softness. They also in conjunction with the dSLR body, have faster auto-focus, meaning less time between when you press the shutter button and the camera actually takes the photo.

4. dSLR lenses are "faster". Lenses have apertures, these function like your eyes' iris: the wider open they are, the more light they let in. When you take a photo, the wider open this aperture is, the less time the shutter has to stay open. If you take a photo of someone and they come out blurry, either it's because you moved the camera or because the shutter was open so long that it recorded their motion. You'll be able to take less blurry photos of people because you can open the aperture wider as well as being able to use a higher ISO.

5. The ability to use different lenses. If you have a SLR, you can have one lens for wide angle landscapes, one for everday use, one for close up portraits of people, a long zoom lens for taking photos of animals and a macro lens for taking photos of flowers and insects. A point and shoot doesn't have that versatility. The more they try to have the lens perform well at all these features, the more compromises they have to make. Either the picture will look worse, or the price of the lens will.

6. The ability to use better flash guns (although some point and shoots do have flash hotshoes). The flash on a point and shoot is usually horrible because:
a) It's close to the lens. The closer to the lens, the easier it is to get the red eye effect
b) You can't tilt the flash. You have to fire it straight at the subject. It's like shining a torch straight into someone's face.
c) They output of the flash is weak and can't light up very fast
d) The light all comes from a small source and is sharp and casts hard shadows

Most people grow to hate flash because the flash on their point and shoot gives horrible washed out photos of people, with red eyes and pitch black backgrounds. Using a dSLR and a flash gun, you can bounce the flash off the wall, off the ceiling or off a reflector, as well diffuse the light (spread it over a larger area, so the light appears to be coming from a larger source, which makes it softer with less harsh shadows)

The only thing a p&s can do better is fit in your pocket.
And not ravage your wallet :D

Personally, for R3000-4000, I'd pick up a second hand dSLR. I use a Canon EOS 350D and I paid about R3300 for it. The one P&S I have my eyes on at the moment is the Canon S90, but it's closer to the R5000 range, as are most of the Canon G series which are highly rated and popular even among SLR users who can't be bothered to carry their SLRs everywhere.

* Most digital still cameras (there are a few exceptions, i.e. the Sigma DP range) only record one colour (out of Red, Green, Blue) per pixel, whereas a computer monitor displays 3 colors (again, RGB) per pixel. The camera (or software on the PC) then guesses the other 2 colours using a "Bayer filter". That's why most photos will look better when you resize them down, because instead of interpolating data for pixels that were never recorded in the first place, you're averaging available existing data.
 
If you get a P&S, you might never discover that you have a talent for photography :cool:

Not true... These photos were taken with a 4MP Konica Minolta Z2.

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You just have to learn how to use that P&S...
 
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Nice shots Q T! :cool:

All the posters are correct in that yes, a SLR is superior to P&S in almost every way. BUT if you are not a serious photographer, chances are you will generally take less photos because you will eventually become loath to lug the SLR and lenses around.

That's why a decent zoom bridge camera may be a better solution for many people - it all depends on your circumstances.
 
Interesting thread.

Just last week I was looking through catalogue at home (Makro IIRC), and was wondering about the difference between the ultra zooms and the DSLR. I did notice that the some ultra zooms can do the same range on one lens that the DSLR does on two. Also IIRC, the DSLRs don't have a megapixel rating like ultra zooms. I don't own either (except for a crap cellphone camera) but I find photography quite interesting.
 
this year in Jan i bought a FujiFilm S2000 HD bridge camera for R3000. it is a huge step up from my Samsung 10 megapixel , 3 optical zoom. The feel and quality of pictures is awesome.

BUT..... if i wasnt soo eager on getting and upgrade i wouldve rather gone for a second hand SLR (if there is such a thing??? ). im flirting with the idea of getting a slr but i just need to chill. After looking at some of the pics here from the members i really would like to upgrade.

Get the slr.... it will be a huge improvement over a p&s. dont make the same 'mistake' i did.My Fuji is real decent though : 15 optical zoom and the macro is pretty slick. also does HD videos and a whole lotta fancy things i havent tested.
 
but can it do 3fps at 3200 ISO at 270mm zoom? :rolleyes:

No, but you can discover a talent for photography, with a P&S or Bridge cam.

Nice shots Q T! :cool:

All the posters are correct in that yes, a SLR is superior to P&S in almost every way. BUT if you are not a serious photographer, chances are you will generally take less photos because you will eventually become loath to lug the SLR and lenses around.

That's why a decent zoom bridge camera may be a better solution for many people - it all depends on your circumstances.

Thanks :D

@ CrazyFig ... I think a nice bridge camera is what you need. Learn how to use it with manual settings. If the interest is still there after that, get a DSLR.
 
I'd say go for an SLR :) You could get a 18-200mm lens that covers a nice wide range of "zoom", but that will be pricey. For most shots, a 18-55mm kit lens will be fine.
 
@ CrazyFig ... I think a nice bridge camera is what you need. Learn how to use it with manual settings. If the interest is still there after that, get a DSLR.
I'd go the other way - get an inexpensive consumer DSLR - we know the interest is there but if circumstances change sell it and buy another compact.
 
I'd go the other way - get an inexpensive consumer DSLR - we know the interest is there but if circumstances change sell it and buy another compact.

I'd say go for an SLR :) You could get a 18-200mm lens that covers a nice wide range of "zoom", but that will be pricey. For most shots, a 18-55mm kit lens will be fine.


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Shoo...so many replies, thanks! Would love to reply individually, but will some up here.

My wife and I like taking photos of wildlife etc. We find that with the P&S...close ups (this is what I was trying to mention about the zoom)...the pic becomes blurry. I have seen quite a few crisp closeups of leaves, insects etc...and cant produce anywhere near the same quality. Maybe its the camera or maybe its me that doesnt know enough, but was told a SLR can take detailed upclose pics.

Same as above...when a buck moves/jumps etc, you just see blurry lines. Not lekker...so want something decent to take proper pics.

From the replies, it seems a bridge / in betweener is the best option for now. If it can meet what we need, then thats great. Not bothered about bulkyness at all. So I think I will take your advice here. Get a in betweener...and if after some time it still does not suffice...then sell it and upgrade to SLR.

With that being said...has anyone got recommendations of in between cameras? Also...is there a difference between DSLR and SLR or is it the same thing?
 
Shoo...so many replies, thanks! Would love to reply individually, but will some up here.

My wife and I like taking photos of wildlife etc. We find that with the P&S...close ups (this is what I was trying to mention about the zoom)...the pic becomes blurry. I have seen quite a few crisp closeups of leaves, insects etc...and cant produce anywhere near the same quality. Maybe its the camera or maybe its me that doesnt know enough, but was told a SLR can take detailed upclose pics.

Same as above...when a buck moves etc, you just see blurry lines. Not lekker...so want something decent to take proper pics.

From the replies, it seems a bridge / in betweener is the best option for now. If it can meet what we need, then thats great. Not bothered about bulkyness at all. So I think I will take your advice here. Get a in betweener...and if after some time it still does not suffice...then sell it and upgrade to SLR.

With that being said...has anyone got recommendations? Also...is there a difference between DSLR and SLR or is it the same thing?
I would try a friends dSLR (an SLR generally refers to a film single lens reflex camera) if you can before you buy a bridge camera.
 
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