Do Macbooks still have the design edge?

nfbs said:
Well they still have the tech edge. Do you get any other 15" laptop with 2880-by-1800 resolution? The Chromebook pixel is 13" and 2,560-by-1,700 but I don't think that will ever be sold in SA. Even the 10" Nexus is 2560x1600 pixel. Windows (an even Linux) laptop displays currently suck.
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Erm, you do realise that the other two products you mentioned have a higher pixel density than the 15" Mac... I don't see how that is worse.

I still have a 2005 HP laptop with zero issues and about +2hrs of battery life, what a **** product.
 
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ponder said:
Erm, you do realise that the other two products you mentioned have a higher pixel density than the 15" Mac... I don't see how that is worse.
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But Apple pixels are so much better. Steve Jobs worked on them before he died.
 
Crowley said:
But Apple pixels are so much better. Steve Jobs worked on them before he died.
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Crowley said:
What do you use a retina display on a laptop for? HD Excel?
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You are being ridiculous.

There is a post by Linus Torvaldts on the issue last year.

So with even a $399 tablet doing 2560x1600 pixel displays, can we please just make that the new standard laptop resolution? Even at 11"? Please. Stop with the "retina" crap, just call it "reasonable resolution". The fact that laptops stagnated ten years ago (and even regressed, in many cases) at around half that in both directions is just sad.

I still don't want big luggable laptops, but that 1366x768 is so last century. Christ, soon even the cellphones will start laughing at the ridiculously bad laptop displays.

And the next technology journalist that asks you whether you want fonts that small, I'll just hunt down and give an atomic wedgie. I want pixels for high-quality fonts, and yes, I want my fonts small, but "high resolution" really doesn't equate "small fonts" like some less-than-gifted tech pundits seem to constantly think.

In fact, if you have bad vision, sharp good high-quality fonts will help. #noexcuses
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nfbs said:
You are being ridiculous.

There is a post by Linus Torvaldts on the issue last year.
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Not making fun of iFans for a change but please explain to me why you need such a high resolution on a 13" laptop? My laptop's resolution is 1600x900 and it is fine for everything I need.
 
Crowley said:
Not making fun of iFans for a change but please explain to me why you need such a high resolution on a 13" laptop? My laptop's resolution is 1600x900 and it is fine for everything I need.
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If you ask that question about laptop resolution then you might as well as:
Why did Apple have the need to introduce Retina display in the first place doubling the resolution between the iPad 2 and iPad 3?
Why is the iPhone 5 display resolution 1136 x 640, HTC one's resolution 1920 by 1080 for such small screens when it makes no difference?
Why TV manufacturers are upgrading their television to 4K resolution TVs if there is no difference?
Why are Apple even producing 15" MBP retina laptops if the standard low resolutions are good enough?

I also have a 1600x900 laptop and I have an iPad Retina and noticed how sharper the high res iPad screen is especially for reading and gaming.
Continue beleieving in father chistmas, tooth fairy and lower resolutions makes no difference.
 
Crowley said:
I don't do either on my laptop but thanks for the answer without being a douchebag about it.
Oh, wait...
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Read the title of the thread , read your posts and see the douche sign pointed at you.

Oh I forget you don't use laptops for reading ...
 
nfbs said:
Read the title of the thread , read your posts and see the douche sign pointed at you.

Oh I forget you don't use laptops for reading ...
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No. I use a Kindle for reading the same as I use my desktop for gaming and my laptop for working. So according to you macbooks have the edge because of their retina display and perceived build quality?

And thanks for strengthening my beliefs about Apple fans.
 
Crowley said:
No. I use a Kindle for reading the same as I use my desktop for gaming and my laptop for working. So according to you macbooks have the edge because of their retina display and perceived build quality?

And thanks for strengthening my beliefs about Apple fans.
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Yes I believe the high resolution retina display gives the MBP a design edge over other OS laptops. Like I said I use a Windows laptop on a 1600 by 1080 resolution

So according to you macbooks don't have an edge because of the retina display?
 
nfbs said:
Yes I believe the high resolution retina display gives the MBP a design edge over other OS laptops. Like I said I use a Windows laptop on a 1600 by 1080 resolution

So according to you macbooks don't have an edge because of the retina display?
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No, they don't although it depends on what you use your laptop for I guess. My laptop is for work. RDP sessions, Excel and outlook which looks fine without a 1080 resolution. If I want to watch HD movies I will do it on my bigass TV that I bought for that purpose, same with gaming on my desktop. Even on my crappy resolution I can still see the difference between a E and a 3 on my laptop so I don't see the need for a super duper ultra high resolution.

Horses for courses I guess.
 
I would prefer to have a lower resolution on notebooks.

Higher resolution means more drain on cpu, gpu and battery. Since most notebooks are used for productivity I would prefer resources to go to that rather than prettiness.

That will drive the price up radically and there is nothing wrong with the current res for the application.
 
Crowley said:
No, they don't although it depends on what you use your laptop for I guess. My laptop is for work. RDP sessions, Excel and outlook which looks fine without a 1080 resolution. If I want to watch HD movies I will do it on my bigass TV that I bought for that purpose, same with gaming on my desktop. Even on my crappy resolution I can still see the difference between a E and a 3 on my laptop so I don't see the need for a super duper ultra high resolution.

Horses for courses I guess.
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Flame war aside, I wish to point out that a higher resolution benefits everyone who uses them (ignoring price). Besides your obvious gamer and movie candidates, a higher resolution allows more "stuff" to fit on your screen per given screen size in inches. Imagine working on excel at 640x480, the amount of horizontal and vertical scrolling will piss me off within a very short time personally. This is strictly speaking about computer displays as phone displays seemed to be programmed to display the "same amount" of content irregardless of the physical pixel count and display size, just looking smoother and sharper.
 
Mystic Twilight said:
Flame war aside, I wish to point out that a higher resolution benefits everyone who uses them (ignoring price). Besides your obvious gamer and movie candidates, a higher resolution allows more "stuff" to fit on your screen per given screen size in inches. Imagine working on excel at 640x480, the amount of horizontal and vertical scrolling will piss me off within a very short time personally. This is strictly speaking about computer displays as phone displays seemed to be programmed to display the "same amount" of content irregardless of the physical pixel count and display size, just looking smoother and sharper.
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I agree with you in comparison to 640×480, but we are not talking that here.
Fitting more on a notebook screen with higher resolution will make the text too small to read. This is achievable on the current displays even.

When getting to the 'retina' level, the clarity of the text is meaningless and the white factor when you say to your colleague 'check how clear my letter m is' just does not work.

Graphic editors will benefit, but they normally use much bigger screens to work on.

Devices will go this way though, that is technology, just saying not needed now as to expensive to drive the resolution.
 
Donald Bradbury said:
I would prefer to have a lower resolution on notebooks.

Higher resolution means more drain on cpu, gpu and battery. Since most notebooks are used for productivity I would prefer resources to go to that rather than prettiness.

That will drive the price up radically and there is nothing wrong with the current res for the application.
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That's a pretty shortsighted view of things. The existence of laptops with high resolution displays doesn't mean you have to buy one. But their existence does push tech forward quite quickly as companies look to design away their shortcomings. It's a disgrace that phones have better displays than laptops.

I would like a future where screens produce an image as good as real life. It makes absolutely no sense to wish for anything less.
 
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