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Do we need a regulatory holiday?
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IMO we need ICASA to publicly state their holiday is finally over and they're ready to do some work now.
With the environment we have - ie one primary source of reliable bandwidth - we, the consumer, need someone on our side - after all history has shown market forces wont work in our favour. A look at my cellphone bill proves that without a shadow of a doubt.
With the environment we have - ie one primary source of reliable bandwidth - we, the consumer, need someone on our side - after all history has shown market forces wont work in our favour. A look at my cellphone bill proves that without a shadow of a doubt.
What we need is just 1 day of actual work 
I mean all i ever see icasa doing is saying they looking into stuff, having tea parties and then writing resolutions based on things we already know about that does not change anything for the better of the people they serve ie the public, yet is written + openly stated sometimes but DoC, to be for the better of the corps. The even worse thing is that after all the talks they produce documents that are worth more blank.
I mean all i ever see icasa doing is saying they looking into stuff, having tea parties and then writing resolutions based on things we already know about that does not change anything for the better of the people they serve ie the public, yet is written + openly stated sometimes but DoC, to be for the better of the corps. The even worse thing is that after all the talks they produce documents that are worth more blank.Debbie
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/me hears angels singing....
Definitely
Yes PLEASE!
We need more than just a holiday. There are two factors that have a major impact on the stability of any industry / country.
1. Competition (I put this first because I reckon it is most important)
2. Governance (Any country needs to have some rules)
With governance also comes leadership but I reckon there is a lack of leadership in our "governance" so lets not go there.
We understand that both these factors contribute to a healthy society. If there is less competition, you need more governance to protect the consumer. But if there is more competition, you need less. Our presidents comment on high telecoms costs was something to that effect as well.
The current situation in our country is clear, No Competition and Horrible Governance. This results is a horible industry where the consumer is forced to pay rediculous prices for services that can now safely be included in the "basic human needs" category.
I have noticed though that people on these forumns call for better governance and I understand that it is the most logical reaction. But in my opinion, it is the wrong one. We should call for virtually no industrial governance, the public sale of all government owned shares in ALL telecoms related service companies (there are so many
. And the disbandment of ICASA.
It is the ultimate solution and the only solution worth working towards. More governance means that we move further and further away from this goal.
ICASA WILL not and CANNOT halve ADSL broadband prices! They cannot make wireless internet cheaper as this will cause wireless providers to go Bankrupt and they CANNOT force Telkom to be fully transparent in their pricing models all the way from bottom to top because they need to look out for the interests of their employees (and thats what being a company is all about!) and public investors. Doing so will generally be bad for Telkom.
So the solution is for there to be no licensing procedure for any kind of telecoms provider. And I dont care that Neotel had to strugle to get theirs. If you're doing something and realize that its wrong then STOP!
Germany didn't come up with a 3 year plan to stop killing Jews after WW2, they stopped very quickly. And yes, I am comparing the state of the telecoms industry in our country to those Horrible events because I feel a little like a Jew in Germany in 1939. The country is definetly out to kill us all!
With high telecoms prices
Yes PLEASE!
We need more than just a holiday. There are two factors that have a major impact on the stability of any industry / country.
1. Competition (I put this first because I reckon it is most important)
2. Governance (Any country needs to have some rules)
With governance also comes leadership but I reckon there is a lack of leadership in our "governance" so lets not go there.
We understand that both these factors contribute to a healthy society. If there is less competition, you need more governance to protect the consumer. But if there is more competition, you need less. Our presidents comment on high telecoms costs was something to that effect as well.
The current situation in our country is clear, No Competition and Horrible Governance. This results is a horible industry where the consumer is forced to pay rediculous prices for services that can now safely be included in the "basic human needs" category.
I have noticed though that people on these forumns call for better governance and I understand that it is the most logical reaction. But in my opinion, it is the wrong one. We should call for virtually no industrial governance, the public sale of all government owned shares in ALL telecoms related service companies (there are so many
. And the disbandment of ICASA.It is the ultimate solution and the only solution worth working towards. More governance means that we move further and further away from this goal.
ICASA WILL not and CANNOT halve ADSL broadband prices! They cannot make wireless internet cheaper as this will cause wireless providers to go Bankrupt and they CANNOT force Telkom to be fully transparent in their pricing models all the way from bottom to top because they need to look out for the interests of their employees (and thats what being a company is all about!) and public investors. Doing so will generally be bad for Telkom.
So the solution is for there to be no licensing procedure for any kind of telecoms provider. And I dont care that Neotel had to strugle to get theirs. If you're doing something and realize that its wrong then STOP!
Germany didn't come up with a 3 year plan to stop killing Jews after WW2, they stopped very quickly. And yes, I am comparing the state of the telecoms industry in our country to those Horrible events because I feel a little like a Jew in Germany in 1939. The country is definetly out to kill us all!
With high telecoms prices
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We're doomed! Run for your lives
The problem is thatTelkom cares little for the interests of it's employees or for it's customers. Telkom's attitude and track record shows concern only for it's shareholders / boardmembers. If Telkom cared about's employees, then it would do it's utmost to keep the customers happy because it's the customers that provide the revenue to pay salaries and dividends to shareholder. Currently the pecking order is wrong: Shareholders / Boardmembers -> Employees -> Customers ... it should be: Customers -> Employees -> Shareholders / Boardmembers. I repeat: without customers paying the bills, Telkom cannot pay staff to provide service / install / repair faults. Without happy / motivated staff services levels provided to customers drop. Without happy customers and happy staff, shareholder / boardmember dividends become non-existent. It's only Telkom's monopoly and exploitation of what the market can bear that's resulted in our current situation. But the winds of change are blowing through our land and in time, things will change for the better. I just hope I haven't lost all my hair when that day arrives
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Double that.
If only market forces had a chance. We don't have proper market forces here due to protection for telkom from government. This makes regulation important, but ICASA has failed. Miserably so.
WE NEED MARKET FORCES!!! BRING IN THE COMPETITION FFS! NEOTEL is not enough and we know it. They will not be enough unless the management there have hearts of gold!
The only way you can ensure a good outcome for the consumer is to get money grubbing companies to fight tooth and nail for customers!!!!!
Yes, nice to say good quality regulation, but the sad truth is certain people in a certain ruling political party are making a lot of tom off this. The regulator is useless, and by the current list of ICASA nominations is going to be completely DOC controlled. Lets not forget the fact that this is unconstitutional.
Right now no regulator would be better than ICASA. Were years away from fixing this mess up by the power hungry DOC. Rather give ICASA a holiday, where they can do less damage.
Right now no regulator would be better than ICASA. Were years away from fixing this mess up by the power hungry DOC. Rather give ICASA a holiday, where they can do less damage.
Its one method of improving things - another would be flooding the market with competition.
I know some advocate giving the sno a chance but why? The only difference with two operators is we have a choice who does the fleecing.