Do you believe aliens exist?

Do you believe aliens exist?

  • Yes

    Votes: 351 69.1%

  • No

    Votes: 105 20.7%

  • Other

    Votes: 52 10.2%
  • Total voters
    508
Mariner said:
I'm not implying anything. Neither you nor I know what evidence there may be because it will be classified information. The response will also be classified, and we don't know what it is or if it has been implemented.



Seeing that you have all the answers, tell me how frequency scanning and the determination of the frequency source work? How do you know whether they have figured out the frequency or not? And what has their response been?



Are you aware of threat determination, rules of engagement and threat elimination? How these rules change with differing threat and response levels?

But seeing you know that the military is authorised to shoot over military airspace, please link me to the source of your information and the policy you state it is in.



You're imagining the red flags. Now link me to the information you claim to have.
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Whether there's evidence or not is besides the point. Belgium is experiencing mysterious drone sightings over critical infrastructure and military sites, which authorities have been unable to stop with current defensive measures.

Why are the drones still flying around in Belgium seeing as NATO uses Loke anti-drone system in Poland, Denmark and Norway?

And you're saying I'm imagining red flags?
 
Jings said:
Whether there's evidence or not is besides the point.
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It's the entire point. Do you advocate allocating taxpayer money to defend against a non existant threat?

Jings said:
Belgium is experiencing mysterious drone sightings over critical infrastructure and military sites,
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Correct. Drones. Not alien spacecraft.

Jings said:
Belgium is experiencing mysterious drone sightings over critical infrastructure and military sites, which authorities have been unable to stop with current defensive measures.
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Please tell me what countermeasures have been unable to stop them? How do you know they haven't been stopped? Does the Belgian Defence Ministry keep you informed?

Jings said:
Why are the drones still flying around in Belgium
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They aren't. The last flight was on 9 November.

Jings said:
And you're saying I'm imagining red flags?
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Why haven't you answered a single question I've posed or refuted a single statement? All you do is speculate differently.
 
Mariner said:
It's the entire point. Do you advocate allocating taxpayer money to defend against a non existant threat?



Correct. Drones. Not alien spacecraft.



Please tell me what countermeasures have been unable to stop them? How do you know they haven't been stopped? Does the Belgian Defence Ministry keep you informed?



They aren't. The last flight was on 9 November.



Why haven't you answered a single question I've posed or refuted a single statement? All you do is speculate differently.
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Any reasonable person would consider unauthorized drones a threat, especially when they're flying around military sites, cargo airports and nuclear power stations. These are all critical infrastructure. And it doesn't matter what kind of drones - otherworldly or not.

They haven't been stopped, that much is obvious seeing as they've been buzzing in Europe since September. That's not even considering the mystery drones in UK in November 2024.
 
Mariner said:
Please tell me what countermeasures have been unable to stop them? How do you know they haven't been stopped? Does the Belgian Defence Ministry keep you informed?
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Or it could be the Belgians flying drones over their own infrastructure pretending they don't know who's drones they are. I'd probably sooner think it's humans being political knobheads than ET surveillance.
 
Jings said:
Any reasonable person would consider unauthorized drones a threat,
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The Belgians do. They called in their NATO allies to counter the incursions.

www.lbc.co.uk

Britain’s elite RAF drone hunters deployed to Belgium as Nato races to shut down escalating drone threats | LBC

A specialist Royal Air Force Regiment counter-drone team has deployed to Belgium after an urgent request for help, as NATO countries grapple with a surge in rogue drone activity targeting airports and military bases.
www.lbc.co.uk www.lbc.co.uk

Jings said:
They haven't been stopped, that much is obvious seeing as they've been buzzing in Europe since September.
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The last incursion in Belgium was on 9 November. How long do you need?
 
saor said:
Or it could be the Belgians flying drones over their own infrastructure pretending they don't know who's drones they are. I'd probably sooner think it's humans being political knobheads than ET surveillance.
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Yeah, right, you call in your NATO allies because you're the culprit? Only someone seeking to lose complete credibility would do that.
 
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Jings said:
Any reasonable person would consider unauthorized drones a threat, especially when they're flying around military sites, cargo airports and nuclear power stations. These are all critical infrastructure. And it doesn't matter what kind of drones - otherworldly or not.

They haven't been stopped, that much is obvious seeing as they've been buzzing in Europe since September. That's not even considering the mystery drones in UK in November 2024.
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You leap to unreasonable conclusions given the information you have at hand.

There are far more reasonable explanations.

Your threshold for evidence for your beliefs is unreasonably low.
 
Brian_G said:
Reasonable in who's eyes? Still not facts
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It's not subjective. There are objectively more reasonable explanations. Explanations that don't have to invoke science fiction nonsense.

Indeed there are no facts indicating that aliens are the rational explanation. I agree.
 
But but.. many high ranking officers claimed that they saw non-human lifeforms (cut out of all context of course).

This was non-human.

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Pay close attention to what these reports say, often they are cut out of context and will never tell you if the "lifeforms" they observed just resembled animals that were used in military or private scientific experiments.

Some "greys" would just be ordinary monkeys without hair after being singed by a crash.
 
Brian_G said:
No scientific neutrality there
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Whatever scientific neutrality is.

Leaping to conclusions without sufficient evidence is not science. "Neutral" or otherwise. It's the opposite of science.

Some drones were briefly buzzing about in Belgium, therefore aliens. The evidence at hand simply does not support that conclusion.
 
porchrat said:
Whatever scientific neutrality is.

Leaping to conclusions without sufficient evidence is not science. Neutral or otherwise. It's the opposite of science.

Some drones buzzing about, therefore aliens. That's just nuts.
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Don't presume all in this thread who believe in alien visitations are leaping to anything.

Will I discuss it in any depth? Nope. Far too few with basic-need open minds here, so they have nothing to learn.
 
Brian_G said:
Don't presume all in this thread who believe in alien visitations are leaping to anything.
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I haven't commented on all in this thread. Just the claim around the drones.

Brian_G said:
Will I discuss it in any depth? Nope. Far too few with basic-need open minds here, so they have nothing to learn.
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Some people have minds so open their brains have fallen out.

There's a difference between having an open mind and drawing unsupported conclusions.

I'm all for having an open mind to new hypotheses. Hypotheses that are investigated scientifically though. Not the BS being pushed about these drones.
 
Brian_G said:
Fair enough, but then again, the comments were widely directed, not just at you.
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You were responding to a very specific post I made about a very specific claim. Every response I've provided has been specific to that initial drone claim.
 
porchrat said:
You were responding to a very specific post I made about a very specific claim. Every response I've provided has been specific to that initial drone claim.
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I pick posts here to chat with based on what spikes interest, nothing personal. Not here often
 
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