Do you have a backup water system?

[soulie]

its just such a pity the jojo is the cheapest part of the water install .

 

[pinball wizard]

I live in a complex and am looking at installing a 5000L tank. I want water to run through tank to house, so water is constantly cycled. No rainwater collection. I only want it as a backup, as our "naughty corner" of Moreletapark have constant water and electricity outages. Tank will be installed after solar. Any advice appreciated. I have 10 thumbs, so will be having it installed - any advice regarding installers also appreciated

You're effectively making the problem worse if you don't harvest rainwater.

Like the dipshits that have an inverter and batteries but rely on eskom to charge them. It's a zero sum game that ****s the rest of us.

 

[JacquesC1]

You're effectively making the problem worse if you don't harvest rainwater.

Like the dipshits that have an inverter and batteries but rely on eskom to charge them. It's a zero sum game that ****s the rest of us.

Point taken, which is the purpose of this research. More than willing to change my plan..

 

[bwana]

its just such a pity the jojo is the cheapest part of the water install .

The jojo tanks were by far the most expensive part of my installation. IIRC even the smallest tank cost more than the pump and fittings.

I live in a complex and am looking at installing a 5000L tank. I want water to run through tank to house, so water is constantly cycled. No rainwater collection. I only want it as a backup, as our "naughty corner" of Moreletapark have constant water and electricity outages. Tank will be installed after solar. Any advice appreciated. I have 10 thumbs, so will be having it installed - any advice regarding installers also appreciated

Good plan if your interruptions are due to breakdowns in the mains water system. If they’re due to water shortages you’re just robbing Peter to pay Paul and might consider an additional source to augment.

In your case I would probably suggest two smaller tanks rather than one large one.

 

[ljw1304]

We can use water from the pool for washing

 

[bwana]

We can use water from the pool for washing

What about the chlorine?

 

[pinball wizard]

What about the chlorine?

Many, many times as a kid, I would not have to bath cause I'd been swimming all afternoon.

 

[bwana]

Many, many times as a kid, I would not have to bath cause I'd been swimming all afternoon.

That’s nice. Chlorine is a bleaching agent. Not necessarily a good idea for laundry.

 

[pinball wizard]

That’s nice. Chlorine is a bleaching agent. Not necessarily a good idea for laundry.

I thought you meant washing people.

 

[bwana]

I thought you meant washing people.

Maybe my bad for assuming he was referring to laundry washing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[CommonSense]

Of course I have. When my taps runs dry I will go to the nearest shop to buy some bottled water.
So I have off-prem storage of water. And the cost of storage is whatever it costs to get it out of the shop.

 

[The_MAC]

Of course I have. When my taps runs dry I will go to the nearest shop to buy some bottled water.
So I have off-prem storage of water. And the cost of storage is whatever it costs to get it out of the shop.

Must be quite comical to see you flush a toilet using 50 Valpre bottles

 

[soulie]

The jojo tanks were by far the most expensive part of my installation. IIRC even the smallest tank cost more than the pump and fittings.


Good plan if your interruptions are due to breakdowns in the mains water system. If they’re due to water shortages you’re just robbing Peter to pay Paul and might consider an additional source to augment.

In your case I would probably suggest two smaller tanks rather than one large one.

lets see ,1000 lt tank R1860 ,pump R1990 for a decent one ,cable ,pipes ,plugs ,fittings ,CoC ,weatherproof housing ,taps ,filters ,unless you have thousands of litres of water in tanks its an expensive operation .90 percent of our installs are 500 litre or 1000ltr .maximum is maybe 2000 litres ,but very few .just a decent filter as the pic will set you back 30k .

 

[bwana]

lets see ,1000 lt tank R1860 ,pump R1990 for a decent one ,cable ,pipes ,plugs ,fittings ,CoC ,weatherproof housing ,taps ,filters ,unless you have thousands of litres of water in tanks its an expensive operation .90 percent of our installs are 500 litre or 1000ltr .maximum is maybe 2000 litres ,but very few .just a decent filter as the pic will set you back 30k .

Already outlined my costs here.

Rainwater harvesting cost me about R1 per litre of storage (started with 5kl and eventually added 4750 then 2450 tanks), R2000 for the .75kw pump and about R1000-R1500 for a decent garden hose, one way valves and other assorted connectors to get the water into the house.

At the end of the day there is probably zero cost savings but I have water.

EDIT: these days you need to include the cost of a backup power supply for the pump.

I'll drop a grand on a pressure tank next and maybe another grand or two on some filtration, but that's a big maybe.

Realistically I see few people around here using tanks as small as 2000l if they don't have to.

 

[pinball wizard]

I see few people around here using tanks as small as 2000l if they don't have to.

I do. But I do use more than one of them.

 

[Bliksis]

I have 7000l JoJo tanks with pump and plumbed into the house. Toilets use tank water all the time the rest of the house has filters. Live in an Estate where the water is very good.
Summary. I don't trust the government so, I have ( relative) water security, Full solar, electricity security, and live in an Estate so (relative) Security. I know I must be one of the fortunate people but you can't be too prepared.

You have your own sewage system too?

 

[bwana]

I do. But I do use more than one of them.

Most people here are/were(?) concerned about the preverbal "day zero" and an extended outage so they've been stockpiling harvested rainwater. 5000l seems to be the most popular size. Smaller properties might not be able to get away with tanks that size.

 

[pinball wizard]

Most people here are/were(?) concerned about the preverbal "day zero" and an extended outage so they've been stockpiling harvested rainwater. 5000l seems to be the most popular size. Smaller properties might not be able to get away with tanks that size.

I like the 2kl ones, cause they don't stick up over the boundary wall. I just link them in series, so when one fills up, the next one does.

 

[JacquesC1]

The jojo tanks were by far the most expensive part of my installation. IIRC even the smallest tank cost more than the pump and fittings.


Good plan if your interruptions are due to breakdowns in the mains water system. If they’re due to water shortages you’re just robbing Peter to pay Paul and might consider an additional source to augment.

In your case I would probably suggest two smaller tanks rather than one large one.

99% due to breakdowns

 

[bwana]

99% due to breakdowns

And how long does it take before repairs are made?

The reason I suggested two smaller tanks is for when they need to be emptied and cleaned.