Does anyone else find this a bit disturbing?

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http://mg.co.za/article/2012-09-11-malemas-military-mission/ for full article.

The government has described a planned meeting at which disaffected soldiers are expected to voice their grievances against the South African National Defence Force (SANDF) to Malema, as a "counter-revolutionary" move that will not be tolerated, vowing to crack down on any member of the military who participates.

The Friends of the Youth League, a group formed shortly after Malema’s expulsion from the ANC was ratified in late April, claim SANDF soldiers invited the controversial youth leader to meet them in Lenasia on Wednesday.
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This does not settle well with me.
 
I think he should be allowed to address any group. It is his democratic right.

That said, I hope that he very soon oversteps the boundaries and gets crushed by the weight of the many enemies he is rapidly making both within the ANC and its partners, and outside. It does not bode well when a rabble-rouser of his ilk addresses soldiers to encourage their support.



In other news, I see that the ANCYL's copy writers seem to be writing for the FotYL.. the same illiterate nonsense:
"speak on the solutions" that will end "unnecessary starvation and threats of dismissals" of soldiers....

"For a considerable amount of time now, South Africa's important component of its defence force...
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scudsucker said:
I think he should be allowed to address any group. It is his democratic right.

That said, I hope that he very soon oversteps the boundaries and gets crushed by the weight of the many enemies he is rapidly making both within the ANC and its partners, and outside. It does not bode well when a rabble-rouser of his ilk addresses soldiers to encourage their support.



In other news, I see that the ANCYL's copy writers seem to be writing for the FotYL.. the same illiterate nonsense:
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It is not his democratic right to address the military, nor is it his democratic right to stir up hatred and the other crap he has been doing. If any of us tried it, we would have been arrested by now.
 
@Fudzy As much as I hate that one racist, I can not condone having "certain" of his rights removed just because I very much want to. Hopefully a court of law will do just that. I found your mentality troublesome. Applying the law as one pleases, is pretty much the norm in "modern" (South) Africa though.
 
B.O.F.H. said:
It is not his democratic right to address the military, nor is it his democratic right to stir up hatred and the other crap he has been doing. If any of us tried it, we would have been arrested by now.
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You are judging my friend, you are judging. And although I totally agree with your view, you are not a judge. Or are you?
 
intel8080 said:
@Fudzy As much as I hate that one racist, I can not condone having "certain" of his rights removed just because I very much want to. Hopefully a court of law will do just that. I found your mentality troublesome. Applying the law as one pleases, is pretty much the norm in "modern" (South) Africa though.
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Huh? I wasn't sure if it is ones democratic right to address military without consent from management or not, that's why I asked?
 
intel8080 said:
You are judging my friend, you are judging. And although I totally agree with your view, you are not a judge. Or are you?
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No, I'm not judging...

It is nobodies democratic right to address the military, you may request it and it may or may not be denied.

It is definitely nobodies right to stir up hatred and such, this is in the damn constitution ffs, go and read it.
 
daveza said:
Have the military given permission to the troops to attend this gathering - I think not.
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Fudzy said:
Huh? I wasn't sure if it is ones democratic right to address military without consent from management or not, that's why I asked?
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I see your point. Under normal circumstances in a normal country you are right. But this is SA 2012. Do you know how many assurance companies address "the army" and police and other state institutions "illegally"? Applying the law selectively, has come to bite the ANC in the butt.
 
B.O.F.H. said:
It is not his democratic right to address the military, nor is it his democratic right to stir up hatred and the other crap he has been doing. If any of us tried it, we would have been arrested by now.
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Its freedom of speech and freedom of association. He is well within his rights to do so and they are within their rights to ask him to come and speak to them.

The big question is why the media is even giving this airtime.
 
Its freedom of speech and freedom of association. He is well within his rights to do so and they are within their rights to ask him to come and speak to them.
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When did the military become a democracy ?
 
Nerfherder said:
Its freedom of speech and freedom of association. He is well within his rights to do so and they are within their rights to ask him to come and speak to them.

The big question is why the media is even giving this airtime.
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If he is addressing them in a private space (aka not on the military base), then he is free to invite them and they are free (within the bounds of their orders) to attend.

If he is addressing them on the military base, then it is not his democratic right to walk onto the base and address them, he will need to seek permission for that.
 
There has been no mention in the news about him addressing the soldiers on a base - I doubt he would be allowed to do so.
 
B.O.F.H. said:
If he is addressing them in a private space (aka not on the military base), then he is free to invite them and they are free (within the bounds of their orders) to attend.

If he is addressing them on the military base, then it is not his democratic right to walk onto the base and address them, he will need to seek permission for that.
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They invited him.

But yes, I imagine its quite hard to walk on to a base and demand that they listen to you.

Actually that is quite a scary thing, the fact that an expelled member of the ruling party is addressing the military.
 
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