Does anyone else find this a bit disturbing?

Man this guy is pushing the limits.

Such a dangerous provocateur; first is stirring up racial tensions; now mining and military. The guy is pure poison for this country.
 
scudsucker said:
There has been no mention in the news about him addressing the soldiers on a base - I doubt he would be allowed to do so.
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One story I read mentioned him going to a military base.

Nerfherder said:
They invited him.

But yes, I imagine its quite hard to walk on to a base and demand that they listen to you.

Actually that is quite a scary thing, the fact that an expelled member of the ruling party is addressing the military.
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I also find it very scary that an expelled member of the governing party is being allowed to address the military (whether they invited him or not)

I also assume that it was the rank and file that invited him, not the leadership.
 
Don't worry people. Let's be positive. One of the drunk soldiers will fire a shot as part of the celebration and Malema will drop dead :D
 
scudsucker said:
I think he should be allowed to address any group. It is his democratic right.

That said, I hope that he very soon oversteps the boundaries and gets crushed by the weight of the many enemies he is rapidly making both within the ANC and its partners, and outside. It does not bode well when a rabble-rouser of his ilk addresses soldiers to encourage their support.



In other news, I see that the ANCYL's copy writers seem to be writing for the FotYL.. the same illiterate nonsense:
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FYI

Yes he can address any group but inciting the public to try and make the country ungovernable is called treason or terrorism ....
 
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Malema-wants-to-turn-soldiers-on-state-20120912

Johannesburg - Expelled ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema seemed bent on turning soldiers against the state, Defence Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula said in an SABC radio interview broadcast on Wednesday morning.

"You can't just go on and on and on, and be going around mobilising funeral gatherings and agitating people to become ungovernable," she said.

She was reacting to Malema's plans to address members of the SA National Defence Force in Lenasia, Johannesburg on Wednesday.

"What are the consequences? I wish I knew. What I do know is that any responsible citizen in South Africa cannot associate him or herself with a person who wants to agitate and mobilise members of the SANDF against the state because they have concerns," said Mapisa-Nqakula.

‘I don’t see what value Malema will add’

SANDF members should use the current structures in place if they wanted to raise concerns.
She said it was not clear in what capacity Malema would address soldiers.

"I do not know and I don't see what value he is going to add in trying to resolve their problems. I don't see in what way he can do that."

The minister said Malema had been "instigating people" in the past few weeks, in an apparent reference to his address to mineworkers at the volatile Lonmin Platinum mine in Rustenburg, and, more recently, his call to Gold Fields miners to strike until National Union of Mineworkers leaders step down.

Forty-five people have died at Lonmin mine in Marikana in labour unrest in the past month.

Consequences

"It cannot be allowed to happen in the SANDF," said the minister.

"It cannot be that we allow an ordinary citizen to stand up and want to instigate and want to agitate members of the SANDF, which is what has happened in Marikana, which is what has happened in the mining industry amongst those workers.

"It's not acceptable, it is wrong, it is incorrect and it is not going to be right. My view is that they are all traits... they are all indications that this is counter-revolutionary, I'm sorry," said Mapisa-Nqakula.

She warned soldiers attending the Malema address that there would be consequences if they did not report for work on Wednesday.

"Our memory is very short and we would probably have forgotten where we come from. People died for this freedom... people died for this country, it's been very, very costly.

"I think it is too risky for anyone who wants to agitate members of SANDF to turn against their own government because they have concerns - because effectively that is what it means.
"Judging by what he has been saying in the past few weeks, that is exactly what it means, that people are going into a meeting to agitate members of the SANDF and I'm saying no, it can't be correct."

The Friends of the Youth League said Malema would address the soldiers after being invited by them to listen to their grievances.
- SAPA
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If we had leadership in the country Malema wouldn't even be thinking about addressing the military
on the other hand, i find him to be an intellectual. Think of this, what if his intention is to make mining ungovernable and violent that when the situation really gets out of hand, police can't cope and the military is needed only to find is not around? They will be busy on their own strike and boom, nationalization of the mines becomes a reality.
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Mbuzi said:
If we had leadership in the country Malema wouldn't even be thinking about addressing the military
on the other hand, i find him to be an intellectual. Think of this, what if his intention is to make mining ungovernable and violent that when the situation really gets out of hand, police can't cope and the military is needed only to find is not around? They will be busy on their own strike and boom, nationalization of the mines becomes a reality.
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Seriously?

You do know what would happen if your scenario played out don't you?
 
Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer.

Something tells me that some people in the ANC that want Zuma out but also want nothing to do with Malema are pretending to be friends with Malema. They urge him on to make South Africa ungovernable, starting with mines and now the military. They want him to go very far and commit treason so that he can go to jail for it. Malema might also face jail time for corruption as the Hawks are ready to move on him. SARS is also on Malema's tail. Malema is being given a lot of rope and being the man that he is he will end up hanging himself with that rope.
 
nationalization of the mines becomes a reality.
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And when that fails which it well judging by how things are currently run and we find all those "workers" out of jobs, who will they blame then?
 
Hemps said:
And when that fails which it well judging by how things are currently run and we find all those "workers" out of jobs, who will they blame then?
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Apartheid.
 
Hemps said:
And when that fails which it well judging by how things are currently run and we find all those "workers" out of jobs, who will they blame then?
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That little scenario above would never play out to nationalisation, it would play out to all out civil warfare and a collapsed economy before they could even think of nationalising the mines.
 
carstensdj said:
+1

Libya / Syria v2.0
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I honestly think Libya/Syria would be a garden stroll compared to the chaos that would erupt here unfortunately. We've proven in the last few weeks that there are elements in our nation that are beyond brutal.
 
B.O.F.H. said:
I honestly think Libya/Syria would be a garden stroll compared to the chaos that would erupt here unfortunately. We've proven in the last few weeks that there are elements in our nation that are beyond brutal.
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Clearly you haven't seen enough of the horrific footage that's come out of that region.
 
Fudzy said:
Clearly you haven't seen enough of the horrific footage that's come out of that region.
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Oh I have...

I'm not saying what happened there wasn't horrific, but I'm saying what will happen here if Mbuzi's "theory" were true would be orders of magnitude more horrific.
 
B.O.F.H. said:
Oh I have...

I'm not saying what happened there wasn't horrific, but I'm saying what will happen here if Mbuzi's "theory" were true would be orders of magnitude more horrific.
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Mbuzi's theory is possible, but i don't see it happening any time soon. still not phased by all of this, this is just another day in SA. Malema was supposed to be a lot of things, dangerous isn't one of them
 
Neck_Monster said:
Mbuzi's theory is possible, but i don't see it happening any time soon. still not phased by all of this, this is just another day in SA. Malema was supposed to be a lot of things, dangerous isn't one of them
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Would have to disagree there! He knows exactly what to tell the masses to get them listening, he is cunning and to them, he is believable... In my books he is a very dangerous character for this country!
 
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