Does anyone really understand the IS ADSL bandwidth model?

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I'm confused. Maybe it is because I like to believe in the basic good of (some members of) mankind.
Here is my version of the story.

I am an IS ADSL account subscriber, 5GB cap.
In theory, I should be able to use 5GB Internationally + up to additional 25GB local? Right?
Or does this mean you can use your first 5GB anywhere, but when you break through the 5GB cap (even if all the traffic was local) that is the end of your International access for the month?
The marketing splurb led me to believe that IS is still one of the good kids on the block, out there to out-do Telkom and deliver a real Internet service in a bandwidth starved country.
Well, I wonder.
I moved about 8GB of data from my office network to my home office via the IS ADSL account (office being in Bryanston :-)), and lo-and-behold - no more surfing anywhere beyond our borders.
Maybe just me - but certainly not how I understood / interpreted the deal.
Comments please!:confused:
 
CCABW said:
Or does this mean you can use your first 5GB anywhere, but when you break through the 5GB cap (even if all the traffic was local) that is the end of your International access for the month?
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That is the correct position AFAIK.
 
CCABW: Your isp should've mentioned that when you signed up with them. All IS accounts are like that. The first X gigs counts for int and local traffic thereafter only local is allowed
 
CCABW said:
I'm confused. Maybe it is because I like to believe in the basic good of (some members of) mankind.
Here is my version of the story.

I am an IS ADSL account subscriber, 5GB cap.
In theory, I should be able to use 5GB Internationally + up to additional 25GB local? Right?
Or does this mean you can use your first 5GB anywhere, but when you break through the 5GB cap (even if all the traffic was local) that is the end of your International access for the month?
The marketing splurb led me to believe that IS is still one of the good kids on the block, out there to out-do Telkom and deliver a real Internet service in a bandwidth starved country.
Well, I wonder.
I moved about 8GB of data from my office network to my home office via the IS ADSL account (office being in Bryanston :-)), and lo-and-behold - no more surfing anywhere beyond our borders.
Maybe just me - but certainly not how I understood / interpreted the deal.
Comments please!:confused:
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This is why i dont like those accounts and prefer buying two seperate accounts and using them together.

(TelkomInternet +WebAfrica) INT + (OpenWeb) LOCAL for example
 
What I would like to know is why the ISPs can't do the routing themselves based on the destination so that these "combo" accounts like OpenWeb provide will work properly?

I mean people are using routesentry or a linux distro with iproute2 to split the usage so why can't the ISPs do it? It's not rocket science.
 
Paul_S said:
What I would like to know is why the ISPs can't do the routing themselves based on the destination so that these "combo" accounts like OpenWeb provide will work properly?

I mean people are using routesentry or a linux distro with iproute2 to split the usage so why can't the ISPs do it? It's not rocket science.
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$$ Even if 1% of that initial cap goes towards local, thats 1% that doesnt have to clog up their international lines.

Of course im talking about IS themselves and not the resellers.
 
Paul_S: The isps cant do it because they're basically reselling IS or SAIX's products. The bandwidth doesnt go through them, only authentication does. The problem lies with telkom since they control the lines for the bandwidth.
 
At the moment IS probably get their stats directly from Telkom, but they could probably theoretically put their own monitoring systems in place to let you mix local and international on the same account
 
It is a bottom line thing, me thinks

I agree, it may be some effort to implement by IS, but they certainly have the know how + experience to deliver a truly differentiated service to their clients

I am thus not sure how this would make business sense to IS - this will certainly have an impact on the good old profit margins:rolleyes: - the local bandwidth is cheap to provide - they must have a placeholder somewhere in their model to cater for the (huge) margin they will be making on every GB sold (before your cap is reached) that is used to do local stuff

I would love to see IS / Telkom (he he, now I know that I am reaching) coming with ways to empower the ADSL ISP's to deliver real service with reasonable margins.

Here is the message guys. Differentiate on your billing model for local and International access, then allow me to choose how much I need, local, and international. I know I can buy 2 accounts to get around the issues - but why should the consumer go through the pain to reconfigure a router a few times per day????
 
IS would make a killing if they implemented that since many people will actually be in control of their caps.
 
O.K, didn't really see it that way, but certainly may open more doors to push sales. Any ideas on how we lobby IS to get a response from them on this discussion?
Does anyone know if IS monitors the forum at all?
 
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