Does data have weight ?

Thus - if all data does is manipulate what is already on the drive, does this mean I have the latest Coldplay album in mp3 format - if only the drive knew which electrons to do something to and if the affected electrons could put themselves in the correct order ?
 
You will only have the latest album of Coldplay, if all the planets are perfectly aligned, and that you follow a specific sequence of events (which may include a trip to Itunes store) - resulting in a very specific orientation of electrons, so as to equate to a Coldplay album on your drive.

:)

Phew, lost my breath there for a sec.

PS.

Sorry for the grammar...
 
i have to disagree with those that say no. I mean, electrons have mass, and they are put on the drive to become a tiny piece of data.

but ram and solid state mem do gain mass because electrons are stored in the transistors to make up the 1100 10101000 etc data (binary)
 
scotty777 said:
i have to disagree with those that say no. I mean, electrons have mass, and they are put on the drive to become a tiny piece of data.

but ram and solid state mem do gain mass because electrons are stored in the transistors to make up the 1100 10101000 etc data (binary)
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they are not PUT on the drive, the bit's polarity is simply changed.

if it added or removed electrons you would have some fine equipment on your hands there....
 
scotty777 said:
i have to disagree with those that say no. I mean, electrons have mass, and they are put on the drive to become a tiny piece of data.

but ram and solid state mem do gain mass because electrons are stored in the transistors to make up the 1100 10101000 etc data (binary)
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Yes and no.

Yes you right about data not having mass.

Wrong about the ram etc.

The law stands. It cannot gain mass. If you download 100GB of data onto your drive - it won't make it any heavier.

Consider:

The mass (weight) of an electron is approximately equal to 1/1836 that of a hydrogen atom, which has one electron and one proton, so an electron is 1/1836th the size of a proton.

Thus because matter is made up of electrons, protons etc. - it has mass.

If the matter concerned (in this case various (Si, He etc.) does not change its state (in other words from Si to something else), there is no change in mass.

Binary is binary. It has no mass.
 
iDenTiTy_CRiSiS said:
Yes and no.

Yes you right about data not having mass.

Wrong about the ram etc.

The law stands. It cannot gain mass. If you download 100GB of data onto your drive - it won't make it any heavier.

Consider:

The mass (weight) of an electron is approximately equal to 1/1836 that of a hydrogen atom, which has one electron and one proton, so an electron is 1/1836th the size of a proton.

Thus because matter is made up of electrons, protons etc. - it has mass.

If the matter concerned (in this case various (Si, He etc.) does not change its state (in other words from Si to something else), there is no change in mass.

Binary is binary. It has no mass.
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but every form of matter has mass, and electron has mass, a proton has mass, and you computer hhd has a mass.

An atom is made up of protons, neutrons and electrons, all have add mass to the atom, yes, the electron is REALLY small, and has little mass, but when your computers ram fills up, it's gaining an electron which reads 1 when there's no electron, it reads 0,
so when ram fills up with 1 mega bit, then there's 1 000 000 bites, and since 1 bit is read as 1 then you get 1 000 000 electrons, but it's a lil more complex.

unless i'm losing my mind :(

Does this make sense to anyone but me???
 
hmmm...you all are right, i'm wrong, I accept defeat. :(

I just figured it out, data DOESN'T HAVE MASS. it's data, just simple information (it seems like I got ahead of myself earlier)
It's like a book, if you had a pen that had ink with no mass you you wrote on the book, you have data there, but it really doesn't weight anything.
Or look at a cd, it gains no mass when you burn songs and porn on it, but there is data on it.

Fact of the matter is that data inherently doesn't have mass, all data is, is an arrangement of what ever you arranging so that you can get information.
HOWEVER, the medium in which you getting the data is where there can be mass involved like writing in a book, when you wright 10100111010 your medium being ink means the "data" in that case has mass.


sometimes, I just feel like the world is 30 IQ points ahead of me.
 
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scotty777 said:
but every form of matter has mass, and electron has mass, a proton has mass, and you computer hhd has a mass.

An atom is made up of protons, neutrons and electrons, all have add mass to the atom, yes, the electron is REALLY small, and has little mass, but when your computers ram fills up, it's gaining an electron which reads 1 when there's no electron, it reads 0,
so when ram fills up with 1 mega bit, then there's 1 000 000 bites, and since 1 bit is read as 1 then you get 1 000 000 electrons, but it's a lil more complex.

unless i'm losing my mind :(

Does this make sense to anyone but me???
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Umm... no.

Really.

No.

:eek:
 
keeper and nihilist. give yourselves a round of applause.
 
Lol I think it does! Psychologicaly that is!:p
With a new HDD you know its empty so you just pick it and its not heavy, after its filled up, you know how valuable all that data is so you more careful and thus making it feel heavier!!

:)
 
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