Donations could cost BEE points

Here, I am donating R200m to a BEE company.....

Don't ever say I did not give anything!

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Can't be right this article MUST be wrong it doesn't make sense.
 
Nerfherder said:
They don't donate for the BEE points, they donate for the tax write off.
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Actually both. Our company asks the employees to pick from 3-5 pre determined charities and we as employees also get to contribute either physically or financially. If our company now pick only some of these 100% black owned charities I will not contribute through them anymore. It's not that I am against blacks/coloureds/whateva, but I will not be forced in this way.

xrapidx said:
No - but I won't donate to a charity that will only help one race. i.e. charities setup with the sole purpose of supporting BEE companies.
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Exactly!
 
And what about the Lotto? Or are their beneficiaries already 100% black?
 
Nerfherder said:
They don't donate for the BEE points, they donate for the tax write off.
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Then clearly you haven't seen the benefits of a well-defined CSR programme in action. It has a huge impact on BEE scores...
 
Exactly where are your contributions going, anyway? I'd rather give my spare change to a needy person every day than donate to these 'charities'!
 
Apologies for resurrecting the thread, but it seems that companies are already reacting to the change in policy.

Johannesburg - A Pretoria orphanage says it is no longer getting financial support from large companies as 70% of the children in its care are white.

Elzane van der Merwe of the Jacaranda children’s home said: “The only answer that the children’s home is getting is: ‘Sorry, you don’t meet the criteria for 100% black economic empowerment (BEE),” reported Beeld.

But Van der Merwe said the children’s home couldn’t choose which children to take in.

“To us a child is a child. We don’t discriminate. Here we have 250 children between 18 months and 18 years that need care, regardless of race or gender.”
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http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Orphanage-too-white-for-donations-20121207
 
hyperian said:
Apologies for resurrecting the thread, but it seems that companies are already reacting to the change in policy.



http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Orphanage-too-white-for-donations-20121207
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I used to give money every month to an old ANC war veteran every month for the AIDS children he was looking after. Regularly in excess of R200, depending on what I had in my wallet. Sometimes he had the children in tow after a visit to the doctor.

They can effing forget it now, and when they ask me why, I'll tell them that THEIR effing government is making an issue of differentiating children on the basis of race, children that did nothing to anyone!
 
Dti withdraws change to BEE codes
Friday, 30 November 2012
The Department of Trade and Industry has withdrawn proposed changes to the Broad - Based Black Economic Empowerment (BBBEE) codes on socio-economic development.

"The dti announces the withdrawal of Statement 500 of gazette number 35754 issued on 5 October 2012- Revised Broad Based Black Economic Empowerment Codes of Good Practice," it said on Wednesday.

The decision came after several stakeholders expressed concern that Statement 500 has been interpreted to mean that charities will be adversely affected, which resulted in rising anxiety for charity and beneficiary organisations.

"The fact that the dti announced previously that the department will correct any unintended interpretation upon completion of the public consultation period, has not eased this anxiety," the department said.

The consultation period closes on Wednesday, 5 December 2012.

"The department therefore concluded that withdrawing the Statement immediately would be the most appropriate response. In practice this means no change to the socio economic developments elements," it added.

Previously the department had clarified media reports that Statement 500 could ruin charities. Media had reported that charities could face ruin over a government proposal that firms could lose BEE points if they donate to charities that do not have 100% black beneficiaries.

Reports were that some charities believe the proposal means that any firm that donates to a charity that helps a white, coloured or Indian person may not be able to claim points for its BEE scorecard.
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FlatspinZA said:
I used to give money every month to an old ANC war veteran every month for the AIDS children he was looking after. Regularly in excess of R200, depending on what I had in my wallet. Sometimes he had the children in tow after a visit to the doctor.

They can effing forget it now, and when they ask me why, I'll tell them that THEIR effing government is making an issue of differentiating children on the basis of race, children that did nothing to anyone!
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It's not his fault either and now the children suffer.
 
FlatspinZA said:
I used to give money every month to an old ANC war veteran every month for the AIDS children he was looking after. Regularly in excess of R200, depending on what I had in my wallet. Sometimes he had the children in tow after a visit to the doctor.

They can effing forget it now, and when they ask me why, I'll tell them that THEIR effing government is making an issue of differentiating children on the basis of race, children that did nothing to anyone!
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ponder said:
It's not his fault either and now the children suffer.
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xrapidx said:
Welll when they grow up they can thank the anc.
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read my post, that particular code has been withdrawn
 
ponder said:
It's not his fault either and now the children suffer.
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Yeah, you're right, shaddap! I'm not like that - most of the black people I know have no love for the ANC. Unfortunately, they are the educated ones, and pulling their hair out isn't going to help them or the good things they're trying to do.

Ol' Mean Bastid said:
read my post, that particular code has been withdrawn
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Nice to hear!
 
I'm putting in R150, all I can afford right now. If anyone wants to join me:

Name: Jakaranda Children`s Home
Bank: ABSA
Branch: Derdepoort
Code: 632005
Acc no: 143 014 0724
Ref: Jakaranda Children`s Home
Optional Ref: Social worker fund, Medical fund, Terrain, Occupational therapy, Transport, Upgrading Fund, “Plot” fund, Sport Activities
 
Johannesburg - A Pretoria orphanage says it is no longer getting financial support from large companies as 70% of the children in its care are white.

Elzane van der Merwe of the Jacaranda children’s home said: “The only answer that the children’s home is getting is: ‘Sorry, you don’t meet the criteria for 100% black economic empowerment (BEE),” reported Beeld.

But Van der Merwe said the children’s home couldn’t choose which children to take in.

“To us a child is a child. We don’t discriminate. Here we have 250 children between 18 months and 18 years that need care, regardless of race or gender.”

She said that even though the department of trade and industry had withdrawn the new suggested BEE codes, welfare organisations countrywide were still affected.

The suggested codes award points to companies for their BEE programmes and donations.

She said their income had dropped drastically due to the BEE codes, even though there was an increase in the children that needed care.

The home only looks after children placed in its care by court order.
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Sauce

So, even though they have withdrawn the BEE provisions, homes are still being affected due to ignorance, and since this particular home only takes court-appointed orphans, how the hell are they supposed to comply with the BEE stipulations in the first place?:confused:
 
Captain Beer said:
I'm putting in R150, all I can afford right now. If anyone wants to join me:

Name: Jakaranda Children`s Home
Bank: ABSA
Branch: Derdepoort
Code: 632005
Acc no: 143 014 0724
Ref: Jakaranda Children`s Home
Optional Ref: Social worker fund, Medical fund, Terrain, Occupational therapy, Transport, Upgrading Fund, “Plot” fund, Sport Activities
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They do the Christmas lights tour. Their whole property is decorated each year. They ask a donation as an entrance fee.
Great place to take the kids and start giving a donation.
 
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