Drug Addict - Relapsed ( Loop )

evilstebunny said:
My advice to OP is for everyone that cares about you to get as far away as possible from you..
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That's a bit harsh. He knows he has a problem, and actually does want to stop. He needs that support structure, not for them to alienate him and make the problem worse...
 
evilstebunny said:
An ex of mine took himself out with his kat use last weekend. We're long separated & I saw this coming, so good riddance, actually.

It started as partying over weekends, progressed to needing a snort to get through the working day, to stealing and ****ing over everyone within reach to get his next fix.

My advice to OP is for everyone that cares about you to get as far away as possible from you..
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ooh... Mr perfect.
 
Congratulations! Wanting to stop is the first step!

Figure out what you want from life and make it happen, you know what you have to do, so do it.

Don't try to escape your old life rather create a new better one you don't need to escape from.

If you fail try again and again until you succeed.

[video=youtube_share;PY9DcIMGxMs]https://youtu.be/PY9DcIMGxMs[/video]
 
purpleheart said:
Congratulations! Wanting to stop is the first step!

Figure out what you want from life and make it happen, you know what you have to do, so do it.

Don't try to escape your old life rather create a new better one you don't need to escape from.

If you fail try again and again until you succeed.

[video=youtube_share;PY9DcIMGxMs]https://youtu.be/PY9DcIMGxMs[/video]
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As a surviving addict I agree very strongly with that bit.

I can't see the video, but I do know there are some quite different thoughts about the mechanism of addiction which have been circulating in scientific circles for a while.
They don't agree with what the 12-step programs say at all. But then, I didn't survive through a 12-step program, or rehab for that matter.

It's going to sound controversial, but perhaps intervention is not the way to sort this.
 
evilstebunny said:
No, Mr it-actually-happened-to-me..

Care to tell us your personal story of involvement with addiction?
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I have played with a few things in my life but never had to seek help, I have had loved ones intervene and set limits though.
It still something that has kept me on the straight and narrow, so I don't think a complete cut off is always the best - obviously depending on the situation and the level of self destruction.
 
Decades ago I was a crack addict.

I went to several different rehabs, none of them really worked although some good tips (like avoid People, paraphernalia and places).

In the end I quit everything, sold everything and went for a walk that lasted around a year and took me from GP to WC in a very round about way.

Never touched the stuff again.
 
AstroTurf said:
Decades ago I was a crack addict.

I went to several different rehabs, none of them really worked although some good tips (like avoid People, paraphernalia and places).

In the end I quit everything, sold everything and went for a walk that lasted around a year and took me from GP to WC in a very round about way.

Never touched the stuff again.
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Insane. Once that devil grabs you, it is usually all over
 
AstroTurf said:
Decades ago I was a crack addict.

I went to several different rehabs, none of them really worked although some good tips (like avoid People, paraphernalia and places).

In the end I quit everything, sold everything and went for a walk that lasted around a year and took me from GP to WC in a very round about way.

Never touched the stuff again.
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Big ups Astro, not many people can do that :)

I have an addictive personality so steer clear of anything illegal.

Always say if I know death's gonna come a-knockin' I'll take a delicious mix and visit tomorrowland.
 
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pinball wizard said:
Watching someone destroy themselves from a distance the way you claim you did, and destroying yourself are two very different things.
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I meant go read again.. I clearly stated it was my ex that died how are you even confusing the two of us here?

Nerfherder said:
I have played with a few things in my life but never had to seek help, I have had loved ones intervene and set limits though.
It still something that has kept me on the straight and narrow, so I don't think a complete cut off is always the best - obviously depending on the situation and the level of self destruction.
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Have you ever tried helping someone like say, an ex, but been kicked in the mouth so many times while trying to just do something until you eventually realize he will consume you too unless you force yourself to stand back & watch from a distance, knowing the outcome but at least not sacrificing yourself in the process too?

Nah... Mr perfect, obviously.
 
maumau said:
Big ups Astro, not many people can do that :)

I have an addictive personality so steer clear of anything illegal.

Always say if I know death's gonna come a-knockin' I'll take a delicious mix and visit tomorrowland.
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All I can say for op.

It's harder when it's available. Almost impossible in fact.
You need to get away from availability. Rehabs and such, don't really help. They have such low success rates it's almost criminal that they are legal.
You need to get away and then stay away from sources. Keep moving.

The day I knew I was clean from crack was the day I was standing in Joe Slovo debating a dealer on the price of extacy (friends and I wanted some). He put a rock in my hand, I laughed, brought the price for it down by half, gave it back to him and left with the pills.

My friend called me a crazy vaalie cause talking back in Joe Slovo apparently gets you killed and we left with 6 more pills than he bargained for.

Anyway, on the above: a bit of substitution is not such a bad idea, smoke a joint, drink a 6pack, pop some pills or chew some mushrooms. Just mind the beer and don't overdo the pills.

Do not put things in your nose or veins.

On a side note, my aunt overdosed on kat, my brother killed himself, also a kat fan...

You need 6 to 9 months before the need becomes a bad dream. It's not so much to pay for decades of future.
 
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