DSTV IPTV service here soon

My 5c.

I live in Hong Kong, and we have no bandwidth issues. There is a well established IPTV service, that also offers HD.

You can only watch 1 channel at a time here, and record a second.

So assume in multichoice's case, they allow watch one and record a second as they currently do.

Max bandwidth is then 12mb x 2 if you watch and record 2 HD streams.
24mb. This is not a problem for fibre links surely.

We have 1000mb fibre to the home(for a mere 2500), 100mb for 535 bucks, and 30 mb links for 300. All uncapped, so there is no hellkom here :-)

Quality is excellent. HD stream is 720p, and never once had an istance of pixelating, lagging etc.

And wait for it, the "piece de resistance", I did not have to get telephone line! Gasp...:eek:

Good on multichoice for at least moving forward for the priviledged few...
 
we'll just have to see what happens when it is eventually rolled out. Currently I'm happy with quality of the service. They finally found a decent backhaul supplier where I live so I get 1024 up and down for R300 but data is extra.
 
I see in Dubai - Du telecom has rolled out IPTV to quite a few residences with this device which
has the normal RCA and an Ethernet port (bandwidth must be included in the price)

If you remove the ethernet cable, the image buffers holds for about 1-2 seconds and then image freezes

Motorola VIP 1510 Decoder Datasheet

Image of the Motorola VIP1510 IPTV Decoder

These smart villages are being developed all over, we have one that I know of in George, with VoIP Asterisk PBX (No Telkom distribution to the customers, only to the PoP)
Distribution can be via the following methods:
1) Wireless (not the ideal for IPTV)
2) FTTH (fiber to the home)
3) Centrally installed DSLAM with DSL copper connections to the homes.
4) Ethernet to the Home via Managed switches

Hang I better shutup now as I might be accused of being a copypaste captain.
 
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Does no one actually RTFA? I thought this forum was populated by intelligent ppl, not Diggers.

The new MultiChoice IPTV system uses a standard DSTV satellite stream which is then converted to an Internet Protocol (IP) based service using a DVB over IP converter. This IP stream is then sent to end users over a high speed IP network.
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I read that as the estate will have a satellite dish and receiver at the main comms office, which receives all the DVB-S streams that DSTV is transmitting, repackages those to travel over IP (DVB-IP using RTSP, perhaps?), which then travels over the estate's fiber infrastructure to a device similar to the Netflix player, which has wifi and ethernet inputs, and all the necessary outputs (RCA, component, HDMI, etc).

Not rocket science.
 
You will have to use specific MC approved IPTV head-end, network encryption and set top box... It will give you a full DSTV service with the normal subscription charges.
 
RoganDawes said:
Does no one actually RTFA? I thought this forum was populated by intelligent ppl, not Diggers.



I read that as the estate will have a satellite dish and receiver at the main comms office, which receives all the DVB-S streams that DSTV is transmitting, repackages those to travel over IP (DVB-IP using RTSP, perhaps?), which then travels over the estate's fiber infrastructure to a device similar to the Netflix player, which has wifi and ethernet inputs, and all the necessary outputs (RCA, component, HDMI, etc).

Not rocket science.
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You are the first one that knows what he is talking about... :D
 
RoganDawes said:
Does no one actually RTFA? I thought this forum was populated by intelligent ppl, not Diggers.



I read that as the estate will have a satellite dish and receiver at the main comms office, which receives all the DVB-S streams that DSTV is transmitting, repackages those to travel over IP (DVB-IP using RTSP, perhaps?), which then travels over the estate's fiber infrastructure to a device similar to the Netflix player, which has wifi and ethernet inputs, and all the necessary outputs (RCA, component, HDMI, etc).

Not rocket science.
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I noticed it right from the first post.
 
DVB-S/DVB-S2 IP

From the article, they will deliver IP over DVB to a central point and then use local Ethernet to deliver to IP based setop boxes.

This is simple and our mother company (Mindset Network) has been doing this in the South African educational space for quite a while.

Delivering IP over satellite uses a IP MultiCast stream which is ideal to get the same information to many sites in one push. So you send one stream and unlimited receivers can receive at the same time.

It is really that simple, and files (be then VOD MPEG files in this case) can be submitted using simple FTP into the server.

The challenges come into ensuring that these files cannot be copied and that digital rights are maintained, but even here simple Windows Media Rights Management can be used.

We even stream live video studio feeds using satellite to any PC, be it strait to the PC, or using a DVB router.
 
Lazy said:
I don't understand this at all then. So why launch a service if it is not possible to be delivered?
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It is to give the rest of the world the illusion that we have high speed broadband. Hotels only Flats etc etc.

When people pitch up for the World cup they going to be blown away by our wonder internet services however it is only them that will be enjoying it.

Makes me sick honestly. Then when we bitch and moan that our internet is crap they will turn around and say, "But why? You have fibre to your "homes""
 
boswald said:
It is to give the rest of the world the illusion that we have high speed broadband. Hotels only Flats etc etc.

When people pitch up for the World cup they going to be blown away by our wonder internet services however it is only them that will be enjoying it.

Makes me sick honestly. Then when we bitch and moan that our internet is crap they will turn around and say, "But why? You have fibre to your "homes""
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Hehe, many a true word has been spoken in jest. So there might be some truth in there!
 
Sorry for a sidebar question: I'm revamping a house in the Southern Cape and want to cable correctly. I'm already putting in coax and Cat5 copper (with 8mb/s dsl), but what else should I be installing to use this sort of stuff in the future? If not right for this thread, please PM me.
 
RoganDawes said:
Does no one actually RTFA? I thought this forum was populated by intelligent ppl, not Diggers.



I read that as the estate will have a satellite dish and receiver at the main comms office, which receives all the DVB-S streams that DSTV is transmitting, repackages those to travel over IP (DVB-IP using RTSP, perhaps?), which then travels over the estate's fiber infrastructure to a device similar to the Netflix player, which has wifi and ethernet inputs, and all the necessary outputs (RCA, component, HDMI, etc).

Not rocket science.
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Uhm, asking questions does not make us diggers. I've stated from the start that I don't see the point and after much of a discussion, I still don't. In fact, it makes less sense to me now, ESPECIALLY if it will be streamed VIA satellite to a comms office. The ONLY benifit to those residents receiving the signal that I can see is that they won't have a dish mounted to their buildings. How does this benefit them? When the weather is bad they will still suffer. Not to mention, the people living in such estates isn't really effected much by the cost saving of the dish installation. Then, lets not forget, one dish goes down and the entire neighbourhood can't watch TV.

Unless proven otherwise, this seems to be an epic FAIL. If this turns out to be the start of true broadband, over which this service can be realistically delivered thereby making this service a trial for things to come then I'd be happy (and happy to reflect on my doubts). But that's a few too many assumptions right there for me.
 
@ Arthur where are you getting 8mb/s dsl from??? :eek:

Sounds about right for now. Make sure you do the Cat5 ends nice and clean and avoid running it near any power lines. If the Fibre comes to your home, you are probably still going to be using the Cat5 to distribute internally. I don't know of any fibre home LAN solutions at the moment. They are probably out there, but helluva expensive and not very pervasive. If you do the Cat5 right it should serve you up to 1 Gbps.
 
Nerfherder said:
I think need to find out what it will cost them to deliver the service... and how many people per "village" need to sign up before it is viable.

Yes I agree that SD will be less bandwith but even if its 1Mb then how do you deliver 150 SD channels ?
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SABC1/2/3/etv uses 2.6mbit/s, easy way to solve the 150 channels is the same way your decoder does it. You can only watch one at a time. If a guy wants more than one, he needs to get more feeds into his house. Or the village requires more back-end servers to utilize the full capacity of the fibre. :-/
 
kilos said:
I see in Dubai - Du telecom has rolled out IPTV to quite a few residences with this device which
has the normal RCA and an Ethernet port (bandwidth must be included in the price)
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I had the "pleasure" of du's IPTV service for a year, and the quality was *pants*. There were compression and motion artifacts all over the show, especially when watching snooker, would you believe.
 
I don't know how exactly the set up works. I can confirm that I do have a HD decoder hooked up using their system and it works perfectly. So currently bandwith does not seem to be an issue on the network.
 
chubster said:
SABC1/2/3/etv uses 2.6mbit/s, easy way to solve the 150 channels is the same way your decoder does it. You can only watch one at a time. If a guy wants more than one, he needs to get more feeds into his house. Or the village requires more back-end servers to utilize the full capacity of the fibre. :-/
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That works if you each have your own satellite... but how will it work when all your channels come down one fibre line ?
Entire complex watches one channel at a time ?
 
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