Dual citizenship

My mother-in-law was born and brought up in Holland and she gave up her Dutch citizenship so she could adopt in SA. When she looked into getting a Dutch passport she was told she wasn't eligible.

I would think that they were be difficult and if she had pushed it she would have been given the passport, but that is the story I heard.
 
I hold a UK (European) passport, but my wife has both SA and UK passports and if nothing else this saves me waiting for up to an hour at London Heathrow while SA (and other non-EU) passport holders line up to enter the country!

Also if we're in the UK and we want to pop over to France, we don't need to line up again for hours to collect a free visa!

Once you give up citizenship you only relinquish the rights to the protection of your countries consulate in your new country of residence. As far as I am aware all EU countries permit you to re-apply for citizenship, which should be only a formality.
 
vespax said:
I have US.

Son has US (and SA once home affairs gets it act together).

Wife has SA, UK/Euro and US permanent residency.

When we travel we carry three continents in our back pockets. :D

PS - and we may collect more in the future. Passports are the new stamps!
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This way your data is in 3 seperate databases :).

As for collecting passports, not all countries allow dual citizenships,
Japan for example doesn't permit it.
 
Some time back the SA gov anounced that it is OK, but one may not use the foreign passport within SA.

For travelling, SA passports are teh stress. European passports on the other hand ensure smooth sailing. If it really comes down to it, I would rather drop the SA passport.

@OP: Envy makes you nasty.
 
Well I dont even have a SA passport, so dang, I am really screwed when the fit hits the sham, oh well one of those things, another reason, so completely disappear from society's radar and go live in the bush
 
sox63 said:
IMO, people should only have one citizenship. If you are South African, then you should be fully committed to SA, not have a Lesotho, or European passport.

Just upsets me thats all, anyone here in such a situation? And could you enlighten us why you choose to keep both passports?
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I have dual citizenship and proud of it. Why would I limit myself? And for those with families, who wouldn't get dual citizenship or passports for their kids in the event that the guavamint decides to **** this place up like Zimbabwe?
 
And besides, nothing like a Euro passport when you arrive at check in at Heathrow
 
I also have dual citizenship and if one passport had to go it would be the SA one. In this day and age one should not have to die for a piece of land. That piece of land doesn't give a toss if you live or die, however your family does. If SA becomes Zim 2.0 I'm outta here.
 
duderoo said:
On the note of visa's where you have dual citizenship. They won't allow you to come in with the SA passport unless you have a visa, yet you can with say a european passport. How does that differ in you as a person, it doesn't.
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I have dual citizenship and always leave SA on a visa-less SA passport
and enter the EU on my EU one, while later re-entering SA on my SA one.

Do you folks with dual citizenships ever claim EU VAT back when returning to SA? :)
 
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PeterCH said:
I have dual citizenship and always leave SA on a visa-less SA passport
and enter the EU on my EU one, while later re-entering SA on my SA one.

Do you folks with dual citizenships ever claim EU VAT back when returning to SA? :)
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No - but I claim back SA vat on my way out :)
 
bwana said:
No - but I claim back SA vat on my way out :)
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That's nasty. So you don't leave on your SA passport then. :)
I was gonna claim some VAT at Munich but was worried that my
SA passport did not have a German visa. Oh well :).

Then again we scored with 96kg of luggage for 2 people and didn't
pay an extra cent. :)
 
PeterCH said:
That's nasty. So you don't leave on your SA passport then. :)
I was gonna claim some VAT at Munich but was worried that my
SA passport did not have a German visa. Oh well :).

Then again we scored with 96kg of luggage for 2 people and didn't
pay an extra cent. :)
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I dont have SA citizenship - just UK and US. My kids are entitled to all three which means its going to cost a small fortune to get them renewed all the time :eek:
 
bwana said:
I dont have SA citizenship - just UK and US. My kids are entitled to all three which means its going to cost a small fortune to get them renewed all the time :eek:
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Yep, applying for the UK one in SA is very costly. You will have to get the new biometric one too.
 
Skeptik said:
Yep, applying for the UK one in SA is very costly. You will have to get the new biometric one too.
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I just got the new one with the rfid so at least I'm good for another 9 years :)
 
Hi guys,

I received some good news today with regards to my Australian visa application(for my dual citizenship - makes it relevant :)). I have submitted my RPL and got a positive skills assesment from them a while back. Then, the next hurdle was to pass the IELTS test. This is the test where they want to see if you can actually communicate in english (If I fail to do so tonight, I blame it on the bubbly we had earlier to celebrate;))

The IELTS was horrible, it consists of a interview, reading test, writing test and listening test. I felt SOOO negative about the interview. You have to proceed with a monologue about the subject they give you in the interview. Mine was about a "photograph I love and why". It was horrible and I was convinced I failed as I needed a 7/9 score to obtain the points needed. Well, got the results today, and BOOM, straigth 8's for every section bar reading (only a 7).

So, what this means to me is: I just completed the Visa application (might wanna review it again tomorrow to ensure the bubbly did not cause me to make any mistakes), then the visa application goes in. I managed to obtain the points needed to ensure a guaranteed positive assessment. The only thing that could cause me not to obtain a permanent residency visa now is if I have a criminal record and/or some cancer or TB. I know for a fact that I don't have any legal issues, and if the medicals for some reason comes back negative - then I will have bigger issues to worry about, but I am a healthy guy who excersies a lot and have not had any problems with health issues before, so I recon my path is paved.

Sorry, just had to let you guys know - this has been a LONG process and finally I recieved the thumbs up to ensure that I will obtain my Visa. I am sooo excited!!! Once you make the decision to move, you put your whole career/life on hold. No use to go job hunting if you might be leaving the company in a couple of months. It is silly to buy that BIG LCD Tv you have been eyeing for a while if you know you are going to have to sell it again. Or that new car cause the current one is busy letting you down. I am just so glad to see all the applications were positive!!

Ok, I am done! If anyone have any enquiries about the process, you are welcome to ask me. I think I have gone the more difficult way due to me not having a degree, so I might be able to give advice/help out.

Cheers,
Sleeper
 
sox63 said:
Do I have sour grapes? Sort of, there is a thread in the NCA section regarding if white people should classify themselves as africans, and the overwhelming response was yes. So why do you need the foreign passports if you are african? Does it not sound weird to you?

PS, I'm not saying all white people hold dual citizenship, my beef is with those that do. They must pick already, and I would have no issue with the seeing themselves as african.
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heck, the world is bigger than africa, I would have 99 citizenships if i were offered them...
just not zim thanks.
 
bwana said:
I dont have SA citizenship - just UK and US. My kids are entitled to all three which means its going to cost a small fortune to get them renewed all the time :eek:
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But you have permanent residence in SA, right. So you shouldn't be collecting that SA VAT ne? :)
 
I was just wondering:

I have just sent in my application for my British Passport (I am a South African Citizen). Now, will I lose my SA Passport or citizenship just by getting my British Passport?

:confused:im so confused:(
 
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