Dual Spec - Maybe not.

[Joker]

Interesting article over at foreveranoob;

From a blue post on the forums about the process of switching specs…

You literally just click a button, and after a 5 second cast, your specializations, glyphs, and action bars swap. You must be out of combat, and it still cannot be used in battlegrounds or arenas. There is currently no cooldown on the ability to swap specializations though.

I cannot tell you how much I hate this.

HATE.

To me, part of the fun of the game was assembling your “team” for going into a raid or instance. Balancing strengths and weaknesses of each class, managing raid buffs and enemy debuffs - this was a meta-game that went along with raiding and instancing.

Gone. Kaput.

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I kinda have to agree with what they're saying.. I think it's definitely diluting and changing things, possibly for the worse.

 

[Oculate]

Interesting article over at foreveranoob;



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I kinda have to agree with what they're saying.. I think it's definitely diluting and changing things, possibly for the worse.

Just Blizzard removing more uniqueness from the game

 

[PsyWulf]

Awe...some...sauce

 

[Trixanno]

Part of the balancing act was already lost when buffs became raid wide. Only certain factors still need to be taken into consideration when putting groups together within a raid.

But the noob in me kinda like the idee of playing both Enhancement and Elemental Shammy in one. Bag space however is going to become very problematic for me however carrying around both gear kits, seperate foods and pots.

 

[Arzy]

I personally think its a good thing...haven't played in 18 months...but still think its a good thing.

Having played a priest the most anoying thing was having to go respec way to often between shadow and holy.

 

[PsyWulf]

Part of the balancing act was already lost when buffs became raid wide. Only certain factors still need to be taken into consideration when putting groups together within a raid.

But the noob in me kinda like the idee of playing both Enhancement and Elemental Shammy in one. Bag space however is going to become very problematic for me however carrying around both gear kits, seperate foods and pots.

I'm carrying Pots,Flasks,and 3 full gear sets at all times(PVP,PvE DPS and ofc Tank),and still have enough slots for my daily harvesting...admittedly I have 20slots+ each...

 

[Jase]

I like the idea as my druid doesn't have to pay 50gold for a respec everyday. Sure one can do dailys as resto but thats like driving my wifes car ... it will get me to where I am going ..... eventually.

And I do not see that it will make any difference to our raids ... I heal in a raid and thats my job, dps is still dps and the tanks are still the tanks.

 

[Oxycute]

I might have it wrong but from what i have read you can only change from the one set to the other at the inscription place eg. dalaran, they are also toying with the idea to give the inscription proffesion a "talent swop bot" ( dont know how or what it will turn out to be) which they can drop for the party/raid to use for out of Dalaran use.

Personally I think it can become handy but think they need to make it city bound. I am a holy pala and the talents for PVE and PVP is vastly different for survival and to be more effective. To have people change spec mid-raid is kinda lame. There are tallents that i would like to have but had to go without, so i had to learn to work around them it makes the game a bit more fun.

That is my 2cents worth like all changes there is always 2 sides... one hope this has more good than bad

 

[wow4life]

I switch between tanking and dps depending on the instance and boss (esp pre WoLK when we had to min/max). Dual spec is good, or at least a short-term solution to poorly designed encounters.

 

[isankey]

Whoop-de-doo, so you can use a reagent to swap specc in the middle of a raid / instance / whatever, at very small cost, or you can swap specc in a major city at no cost at all. And this breaks the game how exactly?

Somebody please tell me how this is any different from having to hearth, visit the trainer, pay the fee, spend the talent points, and then accept the summon back to the instance / raid / whatever, such as happens all the damn time right now. That is, other than being maybe 5 min quicker & perhaps over time somewhat cheaper, given you pay 1k gold for that conveniance?

Anyone?

No?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

 

[guest2013-1]

I think Dual Spec is long overdue. However I think there must be more restrictions to it

 

[Jase]

Whoop-de-doo, so you can use a reagent to swap specc in the middle of a raid / instance / whatever, at very small cost, or you can swap specc in a major city at no cost at all. And this breaks the game how exactly?

Somebody please tell me how this is any different from having to hearth, visit the trainer, pay the fee, spend the talent points, and then accept the summon back to the instance / raid / whatever, such as happens all the damn time right now. That is, other than being maybe 5 min quicker & perhaps over time somewhat cheaper, given you pay 1k gold for that conveniance?

Anyone?

No?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

I couldn't agree more. We have often done a respec in a raid if we lose / short of a class.

 

[d3th_n1gG4]

In guild you could swap builds whenever you where in town, and this is pretty much giving similar functionality. The 50G fee gets a bit much when you are swapping 3-4 times a day between holy/prot

Though I am thinking of 2 prot builds on my toon, my tanking one and my farming one.

Really I don't see how this affects the game negatively, it replaces 1 money sink with a new one, and also if you want to respec to a third spec, like me making my pally retri, you would need to visit the trainer and do it again.

Apparently they will be putting an accept button on specs now, this is tits, as a few times I have accidently put one point into the wrong skill

 

[Craz0]

I might have it wrong but from what i have read you can only change from the one set to the other at the inscription place eg. dalaran, they are also toying with the idea to give the inscription proffesion a "talent swop bot" ( dont know how or what it will turn out to be) which they can drop for the party/raid to use for out of Dalaran use.

Personally I think it can become handy but think they need to make it city bound. I am a holy pala and the talents for PVE and PVP is vastly different for survival and to be more effective. To have people change spec mid-raid is kinda lame. There are tallents that i would like to have but had to go without, so i had to learn to work around them it makes the game a bit more fun.

That is my 2cents worth like all changes there is always 2 sides... one hope this has more good than bad

its been changed u can change anywere except in combat and arenas/battlegrounds the reagent requirement is gone and u dont have to be 80 anymore if u can afford 1K gold at lvl 40 u can buy duel spec

 

[Corgon]

I think its an awesome idea, and i really hope you can do it from lvl 10. Reason for this is that you can actually enjoy the lower level dungeons more, and you will always have a healer/tanker on tap. Whch is win.

 

[werries2]

I also think this is long overdue. For raiding this will be great, not to carry 2 or more extra tanks and healers with you the whole time for that one boss encounter where you need 3-4 tanks and 7 healers. Swapping raiders in and out of raids have always broken the continuity for me.

For my DPS toons this will also allow me to switch between my pvp spec and pve spec without having to fork out 100g per day.

 

[Syzygy78]

Whoop-de-doo, so you can use a reagent to swap specc in the middle of a raid / instance / whatever, at very small cost, or you can swap specc in a major city at no cost at all. And this breaks the game how exactly?

Somebody please tell me how this is any different from having to hearth, visit the trainer, pay the fee, spend the talent points, and then accept the summon back to the instance / raid / whatever, such as happens all the damn time right now. That is, other than being maybe 5 min quicker & perhaps over time somewhat cheaper, given you pay 1k gold for that conveniance?

Anyone?

No?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

Its massively different. How often do you respecc? You do realise it is not just the 50 gold but the glyphs that need changing as well. It takes longer than 5 minutes. Don't forget when someone is respeccing and in a rush, you get the occasional "OMG, I put a talent point in the wrong talent".

Perhaps you are a QQ'ing scribe

 

[isankey]

Instead of being all sarcastic & snippy cause I'm hungover and in a bad mood, I'll just say read the post again, slowly this time, and then come back and tell me where the QQ in it is.

 

[Blatman]

I have no issue with it except .....Big problem with bag space, I already run with health gear, block gear and avoidence gear were the hell am I going to put dps gear?

And you can only have one bag from OS.

Something else to consider how will you deal with loot on Dual spec?

 

[Corgon]

Is Duel Spec up and running now on the actual realms?? I cant look as im capped at work, and my home DSL is not working