E-TOLL bill withdrawn !!

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Some good news, lets keep fighting:

Parliament - The controversial Transport Laws and Related Matters Amendment Bill was withdrawn from the National Assembly order paper virtually at the last minute on Thursday.

Shortly after the Assembly convened on Thursday afternoon, the ANC asked that two resolutions paving the way for the bill to be debated later in the day be withdrawn.

No reasons were given and the request was agreed to by the House.

According to a memorandum attached to the bill, its provisions are essential to implement e-tolling and the Gauteng Freeway Improvement Project (GFIP), as well as other proposed road infrastructure projects in the country.

In a statement later, Democratic Alliance spokesman Ian Ollis claimed “pressure from opposition parties has pressed the ANC to withdraw” the bill.

“After a call by DA chief whip Watty Watson which was supported by other parties, and a threat from the opposition to stage a walkout during the debate on the e-toll bill, the ANC withdrew the bill this afternoon.

“This means that the Gauteng e-toll will not be the anticipated lump of coal in Christmas stockings this year,” he said.

The committee's deliberations on the bill would now continue in the new year. It could only be considered when Parliament reconvened on February 10, and would then be sent to the National Council of Provinces.

“This is indeed a victory for opposition parties and the South African public.

“We will be monitoring the situation closely to ensure that all proper processes are followed when this bill is considered by Parliament in 2013 and that adequate public participation has taken place through the NCOP,” Ollis said. - Sapa
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good news, but I was actually looking forward to the chaos if these baasteds tried to implement - Oh well....
 
kat06sa said:
Let's wait for a reason before we crack open the champagne. If anything, it's just another delay.
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If I had to hazard a guess I suspect the ruling party wants more time to attempt to placate COSATU. Vavi's dug his heels in, and if the ANC and COSATU start pulling in different directions it'll rip the entire alliance apart.

Regardless, if there's any justice in the world next week's court case will sink the entire tepid turd.
 
Parliament rests tomorrow until next year so there was no time to debate the bill.

It will be back on the agenda when they return.

In the meantime Sanral get's nothing....:D
 
Absolutely loving it.

What I don't love is the fact that inevitably we will all be paying for this project, one way or another. It's how, and how much that are the real questions...
 
We're still going to pay for those roads. Be it e-tolling finally comes on line or R14 for a litre of petrol. We will pay.
 
thestaggy said:
We're still going to pay for those roads. Be it e-tolling finally comes on line or R14 for a litre of petrol. We will pay.
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Of course we will. We always were going to. The point is about how we pay. And also how much we pay. Gantries are not efficient means of collecting revenue. That means we pay more.

Underlying all of that is the corruption. Why should we pay any corrupt parties. Fire the government employees involved and send Saab a bill for littering the side of the freeways with their crap.
 
Albereth said:
Of course we will. We always were going to. The point is about how we pay. And also how much we pay. Gantries are not efficient means of collecting revenue. That means we pay more.

Underlying all of that is the corruption. Why should we pay any corrupt parties. Fire the government employees involved and send Saab a bill for littering the side of the freeways with their crap.
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We will pay for those gantries as well. Costs have to be recovered. The gantries and associated collection process cost what, R6 billion to set-up? Somebody has to pay for that.
 
thestaggy said:
We will pay for those gantries as well. Costs have to be recovered. The gantries and associated collection process cost what, R6 billion to set-up? Somebody has to pay for that.
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We paid R19.7bn for construction. The bond was fully subscribed to at R35bn, so the gantries and collection systems costs can be calculated - R15.3bn...
 
The chaos that ensued when Shaik on medical parole was on the golf course? The chaos when the ANC rapes our country at will in broad daylight?

South Africans are too meek and weak to do anything about it, all slaves to the wage.
 
Just to clarify, the bill has not actually been withdrawn, only delayed until February.
 
Bundu said:
good news, but I was actually looking forward to the chaos if these baasteds tried to implement - Oh well....
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Me too. The chaos would have been amusing.

In the end if the gantries get's taken out and we pay for the roads via some other means, will they give it to the public? I have a hell of nightclub to build! :D
 
fonoi said:
The chaos that ensued when Shaik on medical parole was on the golf course? The chaos when the ANC rapes our country at will in broad daylight?

South Africans are too meek and weak to do anything about it, all slaves to the wage.
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Well, as a dear man once said:

Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don't stand in the doorway
Don't block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There's a battle outside ragin'.
It'll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'.
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The times are changing, and white/black South Africans are slowly realizing that we should not be fighting each other, as that is what the ANC wants, [divide and rule by fear right], so I believe a time is comming where the new generations will look back, and realise that if we stand together, we are more powerful than the government.

Eventually, a generation will be here, that does not have a stick up its ass, and a chip on its shoulder, lets just hope there is a South Africa left when that day comes.
 
Garyvdh said:
Just to clarify, the bill has not actually been withdrawn, only delayed until February.
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But it bodes really well. They folded on Cosatu's threats though, not the political opposition...
 
rakabos3 said:
Is Cosatu still marching end of the month?
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http://www.outa.co.za/site/cosatu-march-call-to-stop-etolls-30-nov/

COSATU MARCH & CALL TO STOP eTOLLS -30 NOV

Cosatu invites the public to join them in a legal and organised march on Friday 30th November 2012, to send a clear message to the Government to withdraw their plan to toll Gauteng’s Freeways. Marches will take place in Johannesburg and Tshwane.

Johannesburg March

Starts at Newton next to the Market Theatre at 09h00. March will move to Department of Transport, Premiers Office and the Department of Housing and local Government to hand over memorandums.
Tshwane March

Gather at Schubart Park from 09h00 and march onto the Department of Transport and Department of Finance to deliver memorandum.
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Well, I still believe these eTolls will never get off the ground fully. There is just too much out cry over it and I am glad South African's are taking a stand, finally.

Yes, we will be paying for the roads - but at least we will not be funding the corrupt parties involved in these tolls and, we won't be broke at the end of every month.

They can increase the fuel price by R1 - I'm happy with that - rather than these stupid tolls.
 
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