E-toll debates continue

R21 billion to build! You could have built a much better palace for Zuma with that money, instead of a "compound"
 
chrisc4290 said:
It is still an awful waste of money imo
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Overpaid more like. The actual upgrades are most welcome if you ask me - I don't live in GP, but do travel there every so often and the upgrades are nice, except the waste spent on putting up the gantries. I believe the gantry system cost ~1-2bn ZAR which is excessive on it own.
 
R13... said:
Overpaid more like.
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That is the correct term. The construction cost of the road (not the gantries) is calculated to be 160%-240% of what it should be. I did the math earlier and it works out that the new, or rather upgraded, roads should have cost R4-7bn. That means that Pravin's gift last year of R5.5bn should have paid off the roads completely.

What if a foreign company has illegally traded (through corruption etc) in South Africa. What is the implication? Is all debts owed just scrapped at their loss? Also all monies paid could be claimed back on behalf of the tax payer? Does this mean that SAAB et al (weapon scandal) and Kapsch (e-toll) have pending financial disasters? It will happen, the Zuma period will come to an end, either through in-fighting in the ANC or through external political opposition. Then we will see proper investigations. And I hope these corrupt *ssholes get extremely heavy compensation fines (enough to bankrupt them and their family trusts into the ground) and jail-time like that corrupt traffic cop did last week.
 
R13... said:
Overpaid more like. The actual upgrades are most welcome if you ask me - I don't live in GP, but do travel there every so often and the upgrades are nice, except the waste spent on putting up the gantries. I believe the gantry system cost ~1-2bn ZAR which is excessive on it own.
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Just a pity huge swathes have already been pretty much rebuilt. Not only overpaid, but sub-par work... almost as if those overseeing the construction didn't care about any future repercussions of poor workmanship.

**** the lot of them.
 
Because the notice was printed in several newspapers, it could not reach a wider public. It would have made more sense for Sanral to have had notices on television and radio as well.
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I never saw any such notices but I also don't purchase nor read newspaper, I do listen to the radio and watch TV. If I had known about two thirds of the money collected being wasted on collecting the money, I would have had a few things to say like the rest of us, but SANRAL would never have publicised details like that if it had bothered with widespread public consultation.
 
HapticSimian said:
Just a pity huge swathes have already been pretty much rebuilt. Not only overpaid, but sub-par work... almost as if those overseeing the construction didn't care about any future repercussions of poor workmanship.
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That is exactly the post-liberation gift that the ANC gave South Africa, like Mad Bob, like every other African liberation movement.

Corruption breeds the worst kind of decision makers, nothing gets done right, **** the people .. it's just about what I can get for my own pocket.
 
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