E-toll info gag

[Sneeky]

This does not make sense at all.
The government and SANRAL have been at pains to explain the need for e-tolling to upgrade and pay for road infrastructure.

At first it was just to pay for the roads they built, then it became more cloudy and other services were going to be affected if the tolling was stopped.

Like drawing blood from a stone the government and SANRAL eventually released 27 of 33 contractors involved in the e-tolling operation, i.e. those that would benefit from it.
This, also with no explanation as to why only 27 names of companies were released and not the full list of 33 (which they had declared themselves were involved)

Now despite court orders and everything else, it seems that OUTA have to sign a secrecy agreement to see the actual contract, which means the public will still be in the dark, forever!

This is unacceptable, where is the transparency, why the secrecy, this is public money, that is being spent on infrastructure.
What are they hiding that is so secret?

Johannesburg - The government has managed to ensure the details of e-tolling will never be made public – despite a court review of the system coming up next month.

In order to see the documents surrounding the e-toll tender and contract, the Opposition to Urban Tolling Alliance found it had no choice but to sign confidentiality agreements.

This means the public may now never know the full agreements, pricing and subcontracts surrounding e-tolling of Gauteng’s highways.

http://www.iol.co.za/news/special-features/e-toll-info-gag-1.1402788#.UHuu0MWTxzp

 

[BBSA]

All this information will come out in next month court case.

 

[OMB]

All this information will come out in next month court case.

if you read the full article it says that the case may be heard in camera, that means nothing will be seen or heard by journalists or members of the public

 

[ToxicBunny]

Its a court case, it will be public record.

We may not see it happen "live" but it will be recorded and an application via PAIA will mean the info will have to be released.

The fact that OUTA have had to sign a confidentiality agreement to see the full contract means that the contract is beyond dodgy and the court case will rip it to shreds.

 

[chrisc]

Isn't it some crowd in Sweden or Denmark who is set to profit the most?

 

[LazyLion]

Isn't it some crowd in Sweden or Denmark who is set to profit the most?

Austria.

 

[blunomore]

In order to see the documents surrounding the e-toll tender and contract, the Opposition to Urban Tolling Alliance found it had no choice but to sign confidentiality agreements.

What was the official reason given for this ?

 

[The_Unbeliever]

Why the secrecy?

Methinks there's something fishy and underhanded going on...

 

[grok]

It's the ANC so you know it's going to be dodgy.

They ANC scum is basically using us taxpayers as their personal piggy bank, inflating prices on huge projects like this in order to skim off the top. It's the African way.

Anyway, transparency or not we'll send them a message when no-one buys their corrupt e-tags.

 

[Vrotappel]

News like this makes Hulk angry.

 

[Sneeky]

I agree with Toxicbunny, regarding the court record, but it appears as if there is an attempt to even have that classified or am I getting it wrong?


Also, they disclosed names of 27 of the 33 companies but withheld 6. How by naming the other 6 is that somehow more secret than the others?

It stinks!

 

[Sinbad]

These are not the ways an innocent party acts.

I rate someone within OUTA must just upload the docs to wikileaks.

 

[eltherza]

Its a court case, it will be public record.

We may not see it happen "live" but it will be recorded and an application via PAIA will mean the info will have to be released.

So why are the Zuma corruption tapes still secret?

 

[bekdik]

These are not the ways an honest party acts.

I rate someone within OUTA must just upload the docs to wikileaks.

Fixed it for you.

 

[The_Unbeliever]

I agree with Toxicbunny, regarding the court record, but it appears as if there is an attempt to even have that classified or am I getting it wrong?


Also, they disclosed names of 27 of the 33 companies but withheld 6. How by naming the other 6 is that somehow more secret than the others?

It stinks!

Speculation : ANC bigshots.

 

[bekdik]

Speculation : ANC bigshots.

And smallshots

 

[kilobits]

Queue Streisand effect...

1.2.3.go.

 

[The_Unbeliever]

Cue Streisand effect...

1.2.3.go.

Make it big and strong.

 

[TelkomUseless]

It's the ANC so you know it's going to be dodgy.

They ANC scum is basically using us taxpayers as their personal piggy bank, inflating prices on huge projects like this in order to skim off the top. It's the African way.

Anyway, transparency or not we'll send them a message when no-one buys their corrupt e-tags.

100%. Us tax payers is their personal piggy bank.

 

[ToxicBunny]

So why are the Zuma corruption tapes still secret?

I don't think those ever made it into an official court proceeding... they were dealt with outside of that, but I do think there is an effort to make them public though through PAIA...I am not 100% sure though.