E-tolling has improved traffic: Cesa

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E-tolling has improved traffic: Cesa

The fuel levy is not an effective means of funding improvements to Gauteng's freeways, Cesa has said.

 

[grok]

“The fuel levy just spreads the burden among the entire population…

That's the idea of tax, or would you have that little rural community in Limpompo pay for piping in their own water & electricity? After all that is what the 'user pays' principle means, and strangely the ANC wants us to believe it only applies to roads all of a sudden when it suits them.

as past experiences suggested fuel levy funds were diverted elsewhere.

The real problem no-one's addressing. Stop diverting road funds to other projects, it's what we pay that tax for use it for what it was intended.

roads have not really benefited from the fuel levy

Yeah, the roads only got built out of the fuel levy in the first place but nah that's not a benefit at all.

“We don’t want to go the Eskom route where they need R200 billion to get out of a mess,” he said.

Too late, e-tolls is exactly just another government ****up designed to enrich the ANC more than build/maintain our infrastructure.

Cesa seems to really on a roll bending reality in an effort to suck up to the ANC today. Wonder what tenders are on the table ..

 

[Heisenborg]

WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA OK

Skerminkel you are up

 

[Jola]

eTolls is not "user pays", it is "owner pays".

Only physical toll gates can be "user pays".

 

[xumwun]

They obviously never drive anywhere, traffic has only gotten worse since etolls.

 

[Heisenborg]

eTolls made cars dissapear, wow, magic

 

[Jola]

eTolls made cars dissapear, wow, magic

Off the toll roads, yes, now suburban traffic is much, much worse. Idiots.

Someone please tell them why ring roads are created, they clearly don't know.

 

[kianm]

Ok where to start

roads have not really benefited from the fuel levy

How were they built initially?

It would be unrealistic of Gauteng to expect fuel levy funding to filter down to road infrastructure

And its realistic for them to accept double taxation

as past experiences suggested fuel levy funds were diverted elsewhere

Fix that, it's not the people's problem

“It [e-tolling] really is the only funding model that will be effective.”

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For those who did not want to use tolled roads, sufficient alternative roads were available.

“There is not just one alternative, there are many alternatives,” Mayne said

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He suggested the burden tolling placed on frequent freeway users required further examination.

and the burden on the poor?

 

[shreez]

Mayne - Eat my balls.

 

[Jola]

These CESA guys clearly don't have a clue.

That, or they are talking their books, which is being dishonest.

 

[Bismuth]

These CESA guys clearly don't have a clue.

That, or they are talking their books, which is being dishonest.

I can only assume that the government has promised them lucrative contracts, if they come out in support of Etolls. That's the only thing that would make sense considering the tripe that CESA is spewing.

There are most certainly NOT sufficient alternatives when my GPS routes ONTO the etoll roads as the quickest routes, because all these so-called alternatives are jam-packed. Actually, there are NO practical alternatives, unless I travel considerably further and take considerably longer to get to work. The fact that the traffic is the same, if not worse, on the Etoll roads proves this. I noticed a distinct change for the worse in traffic patterns when they went live on the route I travel, and it hasn't changed since.

The roads have been paid for, the means to collect "tolls" already exist and is quite efficient, so why bring in this Etoll cr@p, except for a corrupt few "comrades"? I will pay for my own BMW etc, tyvm!

B

 

[Jola]

Try to travel from Sandton to the other side of Pretoria (let's say Zambesi / N1 intersection) without going on the eToll roads.

There are no decent alternatives.

Ask me, I have done it a few times, takes about an hour extra (or more than double the time).

 

[supersunbird]

Try to travel from Sandton to the other side of Pretoria (let's say Zambesi / N1 intersection) without going on the eToll roads.

There are no decent alternatives.

Ask me, I have done it a few times, takes about an hour extra (or more than double the time).

And because they don't respond fast enough and then don't clear a silly bumper bashing quick enough, even the e-toll route might take double the time, and many people will try to use the alternative route and make that even worse

 

[Hamster]

eToll removed cars of the road in the same way I remove water from the ocean after a swim. Difference isn't noticeable.

And if the fuel levy spreading the burden over the entire population is a bad thing (who knows why they all depend on JHB's economy) then implement it in Gauteng only.

Besides, the nation wide fuel levy will only be temporary until SANRAL paid off the loan anyway.