Easy Equities good or bad?

It is okey because when I invest, I don't care of I the system is down, that's fine.

A few days downtime won't do jack shait to my investments 10 years from now.
It's not the downtime that's the issue now. Read what I posted. Their system can't even calculate correctly. Do you really trust your money with that?

Here is the difference:

Investing and trading are two very different methods of attempting to profit in the financial markets. The goal of investing is to gradually build wealth over an extended period of time through the*buying and holding*of a portfolio of stocks, baskets of stocks, mutual funds, bonds and other investment instruments. Investors often enhance their profits through*compounding, or reinvesting any profits and dividends into additional shares of stock. Investments are often held for a period of years, or even decades, taking advantage of perks like interest, dividends and*stock splits*along the way. While markets inevitably fluctuate, investors will "ride out" the downtrends with the expectation that prices will rebound and any losses will eventually be recovered. Investors are typically more concerned with market fundamentals, such as*price/earnings ratios*and management forecasts.

Trading, on the other hand, involves the more frequent buying and selling of stock, commodities,*currency pairs*or other instruments, with the goal of generating returns that outperform buy-and-hold investing. While investors may be content with a 10 to 15% annual return, traders might seek a 10% return each month. Trading profits are generated through buying at a lower price and selling at a higher price within a relatively short period of time. The reverse is also true: trading profits are made by selling at a higher price and buying to cover at a lower price (known as "selling short") to profit in falling markets. Where buy-and-hold investors wait out less profitable positions, traders must make profits (or take losses) within a specified period of time, and often use a protective stop loss order to automatically close out losing positions at a predetermined price level. Traders often employ*technical analysis*tools, such as*moving averages*and*stochastic oscillators, to find high-probability trading setups.
I still don't see any definition here. There's a large overlap of the things you mention.

Stick to SARS's opinion if all else fails.

Trading = Speculating = Less than three years.

Investing = Capital Gains = More than three years.
SARS has no opinion on trading vs investing. The difference is with capital gains vs non capital gains and even there it's always been muddy waters. ;)

As for EE your account isn't a bank account. You would normally only pull funds out of it if you plan to stop trading it or move the money elsewhere.

So the rule isn't a problem for most and really shouldn't bother you this much.

If your trading account is your emergency funding avcount...You are doing it wrong.
You are wrong. A trading/investment account is regularly an emergency fund. This also wasn't an emergency event but a planned situation. EE are the ones that failed.
 
SARS has no opinion on trading vs investing. The difference is with capital gains vs non capital gains and even there it's always been muddy waters. ;)
:wtf:

Oh there is going to be so much hurt come tax time :rolleyes:
 
Okay. Carry on with you tirade then.

SARS makes that exact distinction for the very reason a day job trader pays tax as a regular income as its short-term speculation.

A capital gains investor doesn't look at his shares ten times a day. A trader does.
 
:wtf:

Oh there is going to be so much hurt come tax time :rolleyes:
Speak of things you know and not of things you don't. :rolleyes:

Okay. Carry on with you tirade then.

SARS makes that exact distinction for the very reason a day job trader pays tax as a regular income as its short-term speculation.

A capital gains investor doesn't look at his shares ten times a day. A trader does.
SARS makes no distinction between trading and investing. It's capital gains vs non capital gains but even there there's no set rule and the lines are blurry.
 
Speak of things you know and not of things you don't. :rolleyes:

Oh you know, dumbasses like me that coded VAT and ITR14 submission processes for SARS and currently working the OST platform that think we have a clue... :rolleyes:
 
Speak of things you know and not of things you don't. :rolleyes:


SARS makes no distinction between trading and investing. It's capital gains vs non capital gains but even there there's no set rule and the lines are blurry.

Yes and I'm pointing out to you that someone paying capital gains tax is an investor.

Someone paying normal income tax is a trader.

The lines aren't blurry. They are very specific, people just like to blur them for their own personal gain.

Trading = Speculation = Short-term gain

Investing = Long-term funding in the logic that all things eventually do go up.

It's really not hard.
 
Yes and I'm pointing out to you that someone paying capital gains tax is an investor.

Someone paying normal income tax is a trader.

The lines aren't blurry. They are very specific, people just like to blur them for their own personal gain.
Or in some cases "blur" them so they can argue on technicalities and play on words for the sake of arguing.
 
Oh you know, dumbasses like me that coded VAT and ITR14 submission processes for SARS and currently working the OST platform that think we have a clue... :rolleyes:
Not what I was referring to.

Yes and I'm pointing out to you that someone paying capital gains tax is an investor.

Someone paying normal income tax is a trader.

The lines aren't blurry. They are very specific, people just like to blur them for their own personal gain.

Trading = Speculation = Short-term gain

Investing = Long-term funding in the logic that all things eventually do go up.

It's really not hard.
It's seems to be hard for you, so I'll spell it out again. There is no distinction on trading vs investing, only on capital gains vs non-capital gains. And yes, the lines are blurry because there has never been a legal definition of capital gains.
 
Not what I was referring to.


It's seems to be hard for you, so I'll spell it out again. There is no distinction on trading vs investing, only on capital gains vs non-capital gains. And yes, the lines are blurry because there has never been a legal definition of capital gains.

And again, I've explained to you that is the REASON for the distinction between normal income tax and capital gains tax.
 
are you guys still happy. im not looking for day to day functionality. im buying and holding. just don't want to come 5/10 years down the line then struggle to get my money because they belly up.
 
are you guys still happy. im not looking for day to day functionality. im buying and holding. just don't want to come 5/10 years down the line then struggle to get my money because they belly up.

Very happy myself.
 
are you guys still happy. im not looking for day to day functionality. im buying and holding. just don't want to come 5/10 years down the line then struggle to get my money because they belly up.

Yeah, my TFSA is with them. No issues...yet.
 
Not what I was referring to.


It's seems to be hard for you, so I'll spell it out again. There is no distinction on trading vs investing, only on capital gains vs non-capital gains. And yes, the lines are blurry because there has never been a legal definition of capital gains.

Why do you always have to be so contrarian in everything Swa?
 
are you guys still happy. im not looking for day to day functionality. im buying and holding. just don't want to come 5/10 years down the line then struggle to get my money because they belly up.

*connects a keyboard with broken shift keys*

surely 95 pages of this thread should be enough evidence. for you to make a decision. im happy with ee. 5/10 years. who knows? they haven't even been around that long.

*disconnects broken keyboard*
 
You whole share holidings are in your name. You can only stand to lose your fractional share rights if they go belly up - the bits you own that are less than 1 share per company in other words.
 
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