Albereth
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EFF ad also banned by SABC
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Fazda
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^^^ THis - excellent point.
The SABC has slipped very nicely into "Government Mouthpiece" shoes, and appears to be hell bent on putting a stop to any ANC opposition.
Bloody horrific in a so called "democracy"
I don't think censorship is news to many here Zuma has been badmouthing the press and their unpatriotic news for years.
OrbitalDawn
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It's always been His Master's Voice. The only difference being the current Master.
porchrat
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This^. It needs to be seen in context. He isn't telling people to go and destroy etoll gantries and whatnot, he is promising that his party will do that once elected.
I'd be lying however if I said that message came across clearly. The ad could probably benefit from a change in the wording to better reflect that but I'm not sure it warrants the refusal to air it.
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Exactly... not 1 bit surprised by SA/BC(NC)
Can somebody get some exact details - they are important actually - we had a lot more solid information concerning the DA advert. In particular:
[1] Was the advert / electoral message (the two are slightly different) broadcast by the SABC and then withdrawn (as in the case of the DA) or did the SABC on receipt of the advert / electoral message indicate that they refuse to broadcast it?
[2] In the event that the refusal was within 24 hours of receipt and there was no broadcast did the EFF lodge a review application with ICASA
In the event that the SABC has broadcast the advert / electoral message and thereafter have withdrawn it there is a straightforward case to be taken up with the CCC of ICASA.
[1] Was the advert / electoral message (the two are slightly different) broadcast by the SABC and then withdrawn (as in the case of the DA) or did the SABC on receipt of the advert / electoral message indicate that they refuse to broadcast it?
[2] In the event that the refusal was within 24 hours of receipt and there was no broadcast did the EFF lodge a review application with ICASA
In the event that the SABC has broadcast the advert / electoral message and thereafter have withdrawn it there is a straightforward case to be taken up with the CCC of ICASA.
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
ALLOW PEOPLE TO JUDGE FOR THEMSELVES: MALEMA
The SABC must allow people to judge for themselves which party to vote for instead of banning advertisements, EFF leader Julius Malema said on Tuesday.
"Once you suppress the people contesting elections it means you not ready to give us free and fair elections because unfair coverage leads to unfair elections," he told reporters in Johannesburg.
"Let people judge for themselves, Hlaudi [Motsoeneng] can't judge for them."
Malema said the SABC had banned the Economic Freedom Fighters' advert saying it incited violence.
The public broadcaster allocated free slots to political parties contesting the general elections on radio and television.
Malema said his party submitted its advert, which was supposed to be aired on April 20, but was not.
"The SABC wrongly and illegally banned this advert because of the EFF's decisive position, shown in the advert, that in an instance when it takes government it will physically destroy the undemocratically imposed e-tolls.
"The SABC refuses to air this advert, arguing that it incites violence."
EFF spokesman Mbuyiseni Ndlovu said the party had lodged a complaint with the Independent Communications Authority of SA's complaints and compliance committee on Tuesday morning.
According to Icasa regulations the authority had 48 hours to reply to any complaint.
The advert titled "Now is the time for economic freedom", which was posted on YouTube, starts with a woman, identified as Mrs Zameka Nungu, talking in Xhosa about how she was heartbroken when her husband was killed during the Marikana shooting.
This is followed by a slideshow of photos showing police officers pointing their guns at mineworkers in Marikana and people in Bekkersdal.
The video then shows Malema, who introduces himself and urges people to vote for the EFF.
"I know your pain and suffering. Let us vote against empty promises of the last 20 years, vote for economic freedom in our lifetime. Let us restore the dignity of the African child. Vote EFF," he said.
The advert ends with posters with Malema's face on them and different slogans, such as "let's stop Nkandla corruption" and "destroy e-tolls physically".
Earlier this month, the Democratic Alliance also lodged a complaint with Icasa after the SABC had banned its advert, also giving incitement of violence as the reason.
Malema on Tuesday said the EFF would not amend its advert for the SABC.
"We [are] going on with our campaign, we [are] not going to amend our advert.
"If that [the advert] is anarchy let the people make up their minds that that's anarchy [and they] can't vote for it."
He said the EFF would march to the SABC on April 29.
"We think that to suppress an advert on the basis of disagreeing with it politically is wrong."
Malema said his party did not expect to get free advertising space so even if the EFF's advert was not aired it would not hurt the party.
"You're not hurting us, you're hurting South Africans by depriving them of information so that when they vote they make an informed decision," he said.
Source : Sapa /gq/jk/jje/lp
Date : 22 Apr 2014 14:39
The SABC must allow people to judge for themselves which party to vote for instead of banning advertisements, EFF leader Julius Malema said on Tuesday.
"Once you suppress the people contesting elections it means you not ready to give us free and fair elections because unfair coverage leads to unfair elections," he told reporters in Johannesburg.
"Let people judge for themselves, Hlaudi [Motsoeneng] can't judge for them."
Malema said the SABC had banned the Economic Freedom Fighters' advert saying it incited violence.
The public broadcaster allocated free slots to political parties contesting the general elections on radio and television.
Malema said his party submitted its advert, which was supposed to be aired on April 20, but was not.
"The SABC wrongly and illegally banned this advert because of the EFF's decisive position, shown in the advert, that in an instance when it takes government it will physically destroy the undemocratically imposed e-tolls.
"The SABC refuses to air this advert, arguing that it incites violence."
EFF spokesman Mbuyiseni Ndlovu said the party had lodged a complaint with the Independent Communications Authority of SA's complaints and compliance committee on Tuesday morning.
According to Icasa regulations the authority had 48 hours to reply to any complaint.
The advert titled "Now is the time for economic freedom", which was posted on YouTube, starts with a woman, identified as Mrs Zameka Nungu, talking in Xhosa about how she was heartbroken when her husband was killed during the Marikana shooting.
This is followed by a slideshow of photos showing police officers pointing their guns at mineworkers in Marikana and people in Bekkersdal.
The video then shows Malema, who introduces himself and urges people to vote for the EFF.
"I know your pain and suffering. Let us vote against empty promises of the last 20 years, vote for economic freedom in our lifetime. Let us restore the dignity of the African child. Vote EFF," he said.
The advert ends with posters with Malema's face on them and different slogans, such as "let's stop Nkandla corruption" and "destroy e-tolls physically".
Earlier this month, the Democratic Alliance also lodged a complaint with Icasa after the SABC had banned its advert, also giving incitement of violence as the reason.
Malema on Tuesday said the EFF would not amend its advert for the SABC.
"We [are] going on with our campaign, we [are] not going to amend our advert.
"If that [the advert] is anarchy let the people make up their minds that that's anarchy [and they] can't vote for it."
He said the EFF would march to the SABC on April 29.
"We think that to suppress an advert on the basis of disagreeing with it politically is wrong."
Malema said his party did not expect to get free advertising space so even if the EFF's advert was not aired it would not hurt the party.
"You're not hurting us, you're hurting South Africans by depriving them of information so that when they vote they make an informed decision," he said.
Source : Sapa /gq/jk/jje/lp
Date : 22 Apr 2014 14:39
ichigo
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Were you asleep when same thing happened to the DA's ad?
MrGray
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Maybe they should not have used the word "destruction". It implies violence, as you generally don't destruct anything peacefully. If they'd just said "physical removal" it would be fine.
Hmm.. fine line, that.
ANC run government must just change their name to NP of the 1970's
Really poor advertisement by EFF, but that's really not the point.
If you can have ANC sycophants defending the indefensible and spewing white this and white that on SABC how is this worse?
I'm confused
Really poor advertisement by EFF, but that's really not the point.
If you can have ANC sycophants defending the indefensible and spewing white this and white that on SABC how is this worse?
I'm confused
Albereth
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Nope. And I stayed awake during all those lessons on writing with clarity.
Nerfherder
Honorary Master
To be fair I think they could not screen that because of the poor audio quality, sounds like its recorded in a bathroom.
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
EFF TO MARCH TO SABC OVER ELECTION AD
The EFF and its president Julius Malema will march to the SABC in Johannesburg on Tuesday to protest over what it calls the SABC's "ban" on showing its election advertisement, the party said.
Spokesman Mbuyiseni Ndlozi said they would march at 10am to the public broadcaster's offices in Auckland Park.
On Saturday, the Independent Communications Authority of SA's (Icasa) complaints and compliance committee ruled for the SABC by upholding the broadcaster's decision not to flight the Economic Freedom Fighter's advert.
"The CCC ruled that the [advert] may be perceived as condoning or lending support to unlawful acts, in that, it talks about destroying e-tolls which would be perceived as damage to property," Icasa spokesman Paseka Maleka said.
On Saturday, Malema said at an election rally in Durban that he considered the SABC's actions as an example of how South Africans were not free to express themselves.
During the Icasa hearing the SABC's counsel the EFF had refused to change the advert.
The advert, mostly in black and white, is entitled "Now is the time for economic freedom" and was also posted on YouTube.
The section in contention is a slogan at the end: "destroy e-tolls physically!".
SABC spokesman Kaizer Kganyago said on Saturday that the SABC rejected the advert because it contravened section 4(12)(b) of Icasa's regulations on party election broadcasts (PEB) in that the advert contained words which were likely to provoke or incite unlawful, illegal or criminal acts.
Icasa has had to adjudicate two other complaints relating to a Democratic Alliance's advert.
The SABC said the advert would incite violence against the police and the SA Police Service also filed a complaint saying the same thing.
During the advert the DA's Gauteng premier candidate Mmusi Maimane says: "the police are killing our people", as a photo of a police officer firing rubber bullets at two unarmed people is shown.
The SAPS complaint was upheld on Friday night and the DA was told by Icasa to remove the "offending part" of the advert.
It launched a second one on Monday, which focuses on job creation and does not have the clip.
Source : Sapa /jje/mr/dm
Date : 28 Apr 2014 14:42
The EFF and its president Julius Malema will march to the SABC in Johannesburg on Tuesday to protest over what it calls the SABC's "ban" on showing its election advertisement, the party said.
Spokesman Mbuyiseni Ndlozi said they would march at 10am to the public broadcaster's offices in Auckland Park.
On Saturday, the Independent Communications Authority of SA's (Icasa) complaints and compliance committee ruled for the SABC by upholding the broadcaster's decision not to flight the Economic Freedom Fighter's advert.
"The CCC ruled that the [advert] may be perceived as condoning or lending support to unlawful acts, in that, it talks about destroying e-tolls which would be perceived as damage to property," Icasa spokesman Paseka Maleka said.
On Saturday, Malema said at an election rally in Durban that he considered the SABC's actions as an example of how South Africans were not free to express themselves.
During the Icasa hearing the SABC's counsel the EFF had refused to change the advert.
The advert, mostly in black and white, is entitled "Now is the time for economic freedom" and was also posted on YouTube.
The section in contention is a slogan at the end: "destroy e-tolls physically!".
SABC spokesman Kaizer Kganyago said on Saturday that the SABC rejected the advert because it contravened section 4(12)(b) of Icasa's regulations on party election broadcasts (PEB) in that the advert contained words which were likely to provoke or incite unlawful, illegal or criminal acts.
Icasa has had to adjudicate two other complaints relating to a Democratic Alliance's advert.
The SABC said the advert would incite violence against the police and the SA Police Service also filed a complaint saying the same thing.
During the advert the DA's Gauteng premier candidate Mmusi Maimane says: "the police are killing our people", as a photo of a police officer firing rubber bullets at two unarmed people is shown.
The SAPS complaint was upheld on Friday night and the DA was told by Icasa to remove the "offending part" of the advert.
It launched a second one on Monday, which focuses on job creation and does not have the clip.
Source : Sapa /jje/mr/dm
Date : 28 Apr 2014 14:42
Polymathic
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the video is blocked because some copyright claim by dstv
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Seriously? This is an EFF advert on their EFF channel on Youtube, and DStv has banned it? Wow.
Watching their Youtube channel - They are at least doing it right. "Vote for us because we will xxx" as opposed to "Vote for us because the ANC has done xxx and we won't."
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DStv Copyright claim? Doesn't make any sense.
Ask them why?
Ask them why?
Never saw the ad,but if there's (for example) playing a tv in the background with dstv content,then yes,they have a case.
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Wouldn't that fall under fair use?