eMail & smtp relay servers in SA problem

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Anyone have any cheap thoughts on this ie not static address, change ISP etc:

I need to forward all mail from one user to another remote, email address.
They have their own mailserver onsite with Afrihost for their DSL bandwidth.

Their server, when it forwards, doesn’t mess much with the headers except change the RCPT TO: <address> to the forwarding address and place it back in the outgoing queue, making it look like it came from the original sender.

Problem is a lot of addresses fail. Gmail, Hotmail, yahoo etc
Those PITA IS smtp servers simply refuse to relay if MAIL FROM: contains those domains - even though the senders ip is from their own darn ip address pool & authenticated smtp session nogal!

What I could do is send/forward directly to the MX of the remote host.
But all the ip’s assigned are blacklisted by IS on purpose so the remote host says cheers.

I can’t ask the receiving server to white list the ip either since it’s dynamic.

I got all excited authenticating on Gmails smtp server until I tried to reply to a message only to find that although the senders name was right, the address had been replaced by the gmail.com address of the account I was using – effectively replying to myself lol.

I looked at a few smtp relay servers that don’t cost too much – but they are all address based (ie assuming mail is coming (sent) from one account and being relayed to many – but this is, or will appear to be, coming from hundreds of addresses and going to one address - exactly the opposite)

Ideas ?

[EDIT] Albeit i could get the remote server to pop the mail off and leave a copy, it's not practical in this situation - must be forwarded so it can be pushed to a Blackberry via BES.
 
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Can't you change gmail settings to send mail from someone else? Under settings in gmail web client, I'm sure you can do it - let me know if you don't come right. That way, smtp with gmail and it sends on behalf of your other addy.
 
Can't you change gmail settings to send mail from someone else? Under settings in gmail web client, I'm sure you can do it - let me know if you don't come right. That way, smtp with gmail and it sends on behalf of your other addy.

You can - but then it changes all the relayed mail's MAIL FROM: envelope to that address...............
Think you missed the plot.
 
You can - but then it changes all the relayed mail's MAIL FROM: envelope to that address...............
Think you missed the plot.

I got all excited authenticating on Gmails smtp server until I tried to reply to a message only to find that although the senders name was right, the address had been replaced by the gmail.com address of the account I was using – effectively replying to myself lol.
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=7991
Am I missing something?
 
Mail servers don't forward mail the same way as you do from outlook / mail clients from 1 account or address.

Very basically, it will deliver the message to the users mailbox, make an exact copy, modify the TO: headers and resend it to the specified address.

More like redirects the mail to an address other than what the original sender was sending to.
 
Mail servers don't forward mail the same way as you do from outlook / mail clients from 1 account or address.

Very basically, it will deliver the message to the users mailbox, make an exact copy, modify the TO: headers and resend it to the specified address.

More like redirects the mail to an address other than what the original sender was sending to.

I only brought it up since I use it to forward my exchange mail to a gmail account so I can receive it on my Nokia. My office exchange setup uses https proxy so I can't receive mail directly to my Nokia. I can use my Nokia (or web based gmail) to reply and the header has my exchange address in the reply to field.
 
Thanks. But not quite the same thing. How your exchange server was delivering the mail to your google account if it didn't have a static addy and was relaying via an ISP smtp server would be interesting tho.
 
Thanks. But not quite the same thing. How your exchange server was delivering the mail to your google account if it didn't have a static addy and was relaying via an ISP smtp server would be interesting tho.

Our ISP is CGNET - prolly less restrictive.
 
So use another non-IS authenticated SMTP? You'd have to trial & error to find one that isn't fussy, but it should be possible. 50 bucks or so a month gets you access to the mweb auth SMTP & it doesn't even need a mweb IP. Haven't checked whether it rewrites headers, but I doubt it.

Anyone have any cheap thoughts
You mean inexpensive solution, no?
 
So use another non-IS authenticated SMTP? You'd have to trial & error to find one that isn't fussy, but it should be possible. 50 bucks or so a month gets you access to the mweb auth SMTP & it doesn't even need a mweb IP. Haven't checked whether it rewrites headers, but I doubt it.


You mean inexpensive solution, no?

Lol, yes. Thanks i'll have a look at Mwebs offering.
 
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