Empire total war

AjAx30

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ok, so i got the game..... Its kewl and all, but i am getting alot of crashes to desktop while playing and gfx glitches in the game... anyone else got the same??
 

rehd

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You are totally misinformed. The patch is 80-100mb. The 1 gig thing is a bug which happen to people who don't have steam fully updated. Steam then tries to download the game instead of just the activation files.... first you need to download a patch of 80-100mb then there's a second bug fixing patch which is optional for 80mb.....It's nowhere near 1 gig..

I bought Empire Total war looked good on the box (good marketing material I suppose) Sussed out the specs and said need internet account to activate. Like many games need these days, so kewl. paid top dollar (R400) for it. Got home and loaded it. Created a account, and then my 3G bandwidth was getting sucked and 0% was still showing.

Now considering paying plenty of money for a game you expect it to play out the box. Needless to say it doesnt. Now I am not sure how many of you are happy to incurr other bandwidth costs just to start the game, but after 50MB update, I feel its starting to get a bit crazy.

Now if the box said one has to download an additional 200MB+ update I would have never bought the game.

Its like buying a car advertised @ 100k but before you can drive it out you gotta pay extra 50k for the engine? Bandwidth in SA aint so cheap

I queried this with Nu Metro and lone and behold they say no one else is complaining about it? Gotta be only me . And they say its about a 250MB patch if you don't have any other updates..

Leave one to wonder why this isnt on the box or mentioned , or even included in the game.. Hhmm wonder if these will be available at cnr Greystone & Rivionia on special in a couple of months time?

Must be matter of principle here.... But would like to know what others think about it?
 

fivelza

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I would suggest that you check out the forums before buying any game nowadays, the patch was well documented.
 

rehd

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Maybe so.. if one is looking for that information. Still shouldn't change the fact that the game should be able to play, at least something without any patches uploaded. Unless of course its specified on the outside of the box that a large patch/update is needed.

Suppose like a cell contract, buy a Sonyericsson for only R29/m and when you get your bill you paying a extra R55 on CLI and admin and insurance you didnt ask for??? That also may be well documented?
 

SarelSeemonster

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Check that Steam isn't trying to download the game itself instead of the patch. This happened to me and I only realized what was going on after having downloaded around 200MB of what I thought was the patch. Even with the DVD in the drive and the install being run from the DVD, Steam insisted on trying to install the downloadable version of the game. What a waste of time and bandwidth.

You have to run Steam with an additional parameter to force it to run the install from the DVD. There is an FAQ on either SEGA or Steam's support site (can't remember) explaining what to do...I'll post it when I find it again :)

Edit: See here.
 

stefan9

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I bought Empire Total war looked good on the box (good marketing material I suppose) Sussed out the specs and said need internet account to activate. Like many games need these days, so kewl. paid top dollar (R400) for it. Got home and loaded it. Created a account, and then my 3G bandwidth was getting sucked and 0% was still showing.

Now considering paying plenty of money for a game you expect it to play out the box. Needless to say it doesnt. Now I am not sure how many of you are happy to incurr other bandwidth costs just to start the game, but after 50MB update, I feel its starting to get a bit crazy.

Now if the box said one has to download an additional 200MB+ update I would have never bought the game.

Its like buying a car advertised @ 100k but before you can drive it out you gotta pay extra 50k for the engine? Bandwidth in SA aint so cheap

I queried this with Nu Metro and lone and behold they say no one else is complaining about it? Gotta be only me . And they say its about a 250MB patch if you don't have any other updates..

Leave one to wonder why this isnt on the box or mentioned , or even included in the game.. Hhmm wonder if these will be available at cnr Greystone & Rivionia on special in a couple of months time?

Must be matter of principle here.... But would like to know what others think about it?

Packaging of the game is aimed at the target market which is the first world consumer its not adjusted for the small SA market. The first world consumer doesn't need to pay extra if he downloads a activation file or a big patch.

The issues is SA's internet and bandwith being stuck in the stone age while pc gaming companies are pushing forward with digital distribution at the speed of light.

Also Nu metro are wrong. I monitored the download. Its 80-100mb for the activation files. Those you need to play the game. The patch you can chose to download. If you don't want it you can play empire total war with steam in offline mode.
 

rehd

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Also Nu metro are wrong. I monitored the download. Its 80-100mb for the activation files. Those you need to play the game. The patch you can chose to download. If you don't want it you can play empire total war with steam in offline mode.

Err.. cant play in offline until you have that update. Thats why for you it was only 80-100MB, but if you dont have it then its larger. The point is why must we incur extra cost to play the game, bandwidth is not cheap, so why must we pay an extra R80-R400 for a update when the game is hellish expensive as it is? Legally its call non-disclosure, as the cellular companies did that, now the price you see is the price you pay for the item there are not supposed to be any hidden costs.

Image some bloke in Messina buy this game online via his dial up account? Imagine?? Dont understand why we must take this from big business? Ok enough of my ranting, time to watch the cricket, with a whiskey.. Just wanted to know if others felt as annoyed with Sega & Nu Metro.. Last time I buy something from them..
 

stefan9

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Err.. cant play in offline until you have that update. Thats why for you it was only 80-100MB, but if you dont have it then its larger. The point is why must we incur extra cost to play the game, bandwidth is not cheap, so why must we pay an extra R80-R400 for a update when the game is hellish expensive as it is? Legally its call non-disclosure, as the cellular companies did that, now the price you see is the price you pay for the item there are not supposed to be any hidden costs.

Image some bloke in Messina buy this game online via his dial up account? Imagine?? Dont understand why we must take this from big business? Ok enough of my ranting, time to watch the cricket, with a whiskey.. Just wanted to know if others felt as annoyed with Sega & Nu Metro.. Last time I buy something from them..

Because SA has expensive internet that is not the international publisher's problem. They do not have to adjust for their advertising for each and every region they release the game to, SA is too small a market to justify that cost. They say you need an internet connection which implies you may need to download some files to get the game to work. Blame Helkom for our internet issues not the international publisher/developer.

If steam is fully updated which it should be anyway its 80-100 mb for the activation files of empire total war which gets downloaded first. The first patch that you can chose to download afterwords is another 80mb but if you want to you can play it offline after downloading the activation files.
 
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