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medicnick83

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Hi all,

I want advice on a situation that I personally am NOT facing, but people I know are.

Okay, without mentioning names - here goes.

A friend of mine sent me a message saying he is starting a business, he has X amount of posts for many staff but the company will start in JHB - but he is advertising for staff from CPT (for JHB) so they'll have to relocate.
Hard to believe? Maybe... But I know him personally, he came into money after a family member passed away, how he wants to spend it is awesome... creating jobs!

Anyways, I posted this 'offer' on a Facebook group and that is that.

Now, his little group of 'staff' did their interviews, told people (apparently) that they passed selection and are going to leave for JHB soon (very soon by the sounds of things, that week or the following) but they just need to 'iron' out a few things - these staff members resigned from current positions and well...

It's a few weeks later (± 4 weeks) and they are not employed, there are some very angry people.

Many of the staff are obviously from the unfortunate side of the scale (make of that - what you will) so they probably took the company on their word that they are hired, so I'm assuming here, they were VERBALLY told they are successful - no contracts etc yet.

Today I spoke to the guy (boss) in question, he said the only thing 'holding them back' is that their uniforms haven't been completed yet.
But according to one person; "the last time i phoned they told me the uniform thing is settled"

The (boss) then replied with; "Good morning all <company name removed> is in process of having new uniform made for the staff whereby all staff from <company name removed> was notified that the factory supplying are uniform are closed."

Another comment was added: "The other thing is they dont even call us and update us their phones r off they told us that everything is done we only need to do test driving and orientation and they never came back to us i was wondering and most of us quit our jobs bcz of their promises bt why they such a thing like that cz we real need a job they mustnt play with our future they must respond to this!"

Obviously now, what legal route can these people take against the company in question.

This company has/is stirring up a hornets nest. :mad:

Personally, I think he should keep his promises, take those staff he promised a job, hire them, and get them to work doing their thing here in CPT and when uniforms or whatever is sorted, send them up to JHB but nothing is being done and those people have resigned / quit etc their jobs which in my opinion is really not right - I don't know these people, I shouldn't care but I actually do.

Comments?
 
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Irrespective of the final outcome, I would consider establishing a better class of "friend"
 
Hi all,

I want advice on a situation that I personally am NOT facing, but people I know are.

Okay, without mentioning names - here goes.

A friend of mine sent me a message saying he is starting a business, he has X amount of posts for many staff but the company will start in JHB - but he is advertising for staff from CPT (for JHB) so they'll have to relocate.
Hard to believe? Maybe... But I know him personally, he came into money after a family member passed away, how he wants to spend it is awesome... creating jobs!

Anyways, I posted this 'offer' on a Facebook group and that is that.

Now, his little group of 'staff' did their interviews, told people (apparently) that they passed selection and are going to leave for JHB soon (very soon by the sounds of things, that week or the following) but they just need to 'iron' out a few things - these staff members resigned from current positions and well...

It's a few weeks later (± 4 weeks) and they are not employed, there are some very angry people.

Many of the staff are obviously from the unfortunate side of the scale (make of that - what you will) so they probably took the company on their word that they are hired, so I'm assuming here, they were VERBALLY told they are successful - no contracts etc yet.

Today I spoke to the guy (boss) in question, he said the only thing 'holding them back' is that their uniforms haven't been completed yet.
But according to one person; "the last time i phoned they told me the uniform thing is settled"

The (boss) then replied with; "Good morning all <company name removed> is in process of having new uniform made for the staff whereby all staff from <company name removed> was notified that the factory supplying are uniform are closed."

Another comment was added: "The other thing is they dont even call us and update us their phones r off they told us that everything is done we only need to do test driving and orientation and they never came back to us i was wondering and most of us quit our jobs bcz of their promises bt why they such a thing like that cz we real need a job they mustnt play with our future they must respond to this!"

Obviously now, what legal route can these people take against the company in question.

This company has/is stirring up a hornets nest. :mad:

Personally, I think he should keep his promises, take those staff he promised a job, hire them, and get them to work doing their thing here in CPT and when uniforms or whatever is sorted, send them up to JHB but nothing is being done and those people have resigned / quit etc their jobs which in my opinion is really not right - I don't know these people, I shouldn't care but I actually do.

Comments?

You should never quit your job without a letter of appointment or contract.

Did they communicate via email? As far as I know email is a legal document and can be used in a court of law.
 
You should never quit your job without a letter of appointment or contract.

Did they communicate via email? As far as I know email is a legal document and can be used in a court of law.

I doubt it, the people they interviewed probably don't have e-mail - if anything, they would've done it verbally in the interview.
 
I fail to understand the need to employ people from Cape Town for Jozi, we have plenty of jobless people up here
 
I fail to understand the need to employ people from Cape Town for Jozi, we have plenty of jobless people up here

Ja, that alone sounded pretty frikken dodgy. My cynical, paranoid side makes me think this dude is trying to pull some sort of fast one on investors by almost setting up a legit looking business, getting their money and ducking. Hiring from CT would make it harder for "employess" to come after you when you burn them.
 
There is unfortunately nothing these people can do if they've quite their job and there is no evidence of them being "hired" by this new company.

Also I would be very suspicious of someone hiring people from CPT for what sounds like very average jobs in JHB.
 
is the work in emergency services of some shape or form?
the uniforms and you avatar lead to the question
 
The uniform thing sound like a stupid excuse. If you really want to start a new business, you can buy R30 t-shirts or something similar and replace later.
 
I fail to understand the need to employ people from Cape Town for Jozi, we have plenty of jobless people up here

I agree, but that is what he is doing/done.

Ja, that alone sounded pretty frikken dodgy. My cynical, paranoid side makes me think this dude is trying to pull some sort of fast one on investors by almost setting up a legit looking business, getting their money and ducking. Hiring from CT would make it harder for "employess" to come after you when you burn them.

I don't know the guy like that, I'm not entirely sure why he has done it this way either - we not friends so I don't get too involved.

There is unfortunately nothing these people can do if they've quite their job and there is no evidence of them being "hired" by this new company.

Also I would be very suspicious of someone hiring people from CPT for what sounds like very average jobs in JHB.

Agreed.

is the work in emergency services of some shape or form?
the uniforms and you avatar lead to the question

Yes, he is wanting to start a EMS service up in JHB and then the same in CPT.
He lives in CPT, why not start it here, I dunno, but I think it's a 'Huge' contract for JHB that's been offered (possibly)

The uniform thing sound like a stupid excuse. If you really want to start a new business, you can buy R30 t-shirts or something similar and replace later.

I also think it's a stupid excuse.
 
my guess - and it is quite speculative - is that there are opportunities to set up private shop with municipal support in place (IIRC the CoJ has a tender out for providing certain supporting emergency services) but there is likely to be lots of bull**** and under the table crap at play.

I can't see any harm in contacting the Gauteng Department of Health as well as the respective directors (Community Safety possibly but it differs from municipality to municipality) responsible for emergency services of the Gauteng Municipalities (there aren't many of them) to get an idea of what is going on.
 
Your pal is setting up a scam, why on earth do you need to employ ppl from CPT when there are ppl in JHB?Easier to run with money...
Oh, those ppl deserve it, you never quit your job without a written signed contract...school fees.
 
Regardless of what the boss is trying to do - people who resign from their employment on a "promise" that they will be hired and nothing in writing... well, they're asking for ****.

Never, ever, leave current employment until you have a letter of employment / contract.

Secondly - this "friend" sounds like a scam artist.
 
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