SA is spending billions to upgrade the infrastructure. Just ask Capetownguy how much. Unfortunately, he is not able to specify what exactly is being done to upgrade the infrastructure, other than the import of buses from South America
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Eskom and the World Cup
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SA is spending billions to upgrade the infrastructure. Just ask Capetownguy how much. Unfortunately, he is not able to specify what exactly is being done to upgrade the infrastructure, other than the import of buses from South America
Moederloos
Honorary Master
SA is spending billions to upgrade the infrastructure. Just ask Capetownguy how much. Unfortunately, he is not able to specify what exactly is being done to upgrade the infrastructure, other than the import of buses from South America
They are spending billions upgrading their offshore portfolios.
schitz011
Expert Member
This so called government needs to get it's head out of it's arse and relalize the problem is here and now.
Quite frankly I don't a toss if the stadiums get built or not. Rather than trying to behave like a first world country and have football tournaments, surely the welfare of the citizens footing the bill should be of more concern?
The sooner this bunch of self serving arrogant bunch of miscreant arseholes that calls itself the government realize that there are far more pressing matters than having a world cup, such as supplying BASIC ultilites, the sooner this country will pull itself back from the brink of being one more in the long list of African failures.
But no, just to prove that Africa can host a world cup and for our 'illustrious' to have a chance to be collectively jerked off by other african leaders WE have to suffer.
If scrapping the world cup meant we could alleviate part of this BS with Eskom then I wouldn't give it a moments thought.
Yes, I am aware that it's not just the fault of preparations that we find ourselves in a Dickensian utopia, but it can't be helping the situation either..
The sooner the ANC face up to the fact that squatting in the bush for 20 odd years planning the downfall of the white man is NOT sufficient education for running the country and admit they have no clue on whats going on and dissapear up their own arseholes, then the sooner all of us can get back to our lives and fix this mess they have built in the last 14 years.
Quite frankly I don't a toss if the stadiums get built or not. Rather than trying to behave like a first world country and have football tournaments, surely the welfare of the citizens footing the bill should be of more concern?
The sooner this bunch of self serving arrogant bunch of miscreant arseholes that calls itself the government realize that there are far more pressing matters than having a world cup, such as supplying BASIC ultilites, the sooner this country will pull itself back from the brink of being one more in the long list of African failures.
But no, just to prove that Africa can host a world cup and for our 'illustrious' to have a chance to be collectively jerked off by other african leaders WE have to suffer.
If scrapping the world cup meant we could alleviate part of this BS with Eskom then I wouldn't give it a moments thought.
Yes, I am aware that it's not just the fault of preparations that we find ourselves in a Dickensian utopia, but it can't be helping the situation either..
The sooner the ANC face up to the fact that squatting in the bush for 20 odd years planning the downfall of the white man is NOT sufficient education for running the country and admit they have no clue on whats going on and dissapear up their own arseholes, then the sooner all of us can get back to our lives and fix this mess they have built in the last 14 years.
Moederloos
Honorary Master
I always appreciate a well written and funny post.
Thanks schitz011.
Thanks schitz011.
schitz011
Expert Member
NP.
The time has come to stop beating around the bush and call a spade a spade.
The time has come to stop beating around the bush and call a spade a spade.
Obaht
Well-Known Member
Wait until Koeberg "goes down for scheduled maintenance".
Perhaps you are the ignorant one.
LancelotSA
Banned
I'm with you.... Pessimism is a disease and it is spreading fast!
daveza
Honorary Master
Fair enough.
Let's be positive.
I am positive there are serious problems which I see no evidence of a plan to solve them.
And I'm optimistic that 30 billion people are going to be getting their knowledge of Cape Town through a TV screen - it could be 30 billion who are attracted by what they see and hear or it could be 30 billion who write us off their holiday lists.
That's quite a gamble.
Let's be positive.
I am positive there are serious problems which I see no evidence of a plan to solve them.
And I'm optimistic that 30 billion people are going to be getting their knowledge of Cape Town through a TV screen - it could be 30 billion who are attracted by what they see and hear or it could be 30 billion who write us off their holiday lists.
That's quite a gamble.
Moederloos
Honorary Master
I am positive that we are not only up a creek without a paddle, but the creek is also full of sewage.
LancelotSA
Banned
Aha, so we have a definate movement to try and get rid of everyone who happens to have a different mentality to the rest of the herd on here?
"If they don't agree with is, get rid of them!"
Well that is what I am reading into your post....
daveza, I am just totally stoked that those 30 billion people are going to be able to view South Africa on their tv screens, and millions others will form their own opinions in person, and they will not be getting their impressions on South Africa from the likes of you guys!
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Moederloos
Honorary Master
Well, you would.
I read it as "the yaysayers have slowly come to the realization they were wrong, and will become naysayers too"
LancelotSA
Banned
Aha, ok fair enough. So it is not a definate attempt to get rid of us physically but an all out attempt to ensure we change our way of thinking to yours?
Moederloos
Honorary Master
I really do not care in the slightest who succeeds in changing who's manner or way of thinking. Nor who changes who's opinions.
Only a fool will stick steadfastly to an opinion that is proven wrong.
If "our" arguments serve to change the opinion of others, then so be it - that is what debate and argument is intended to do.
You are welcome to try and change my opinion, and I feel I am welcome to try change yours. After all, why else debate?
LancelotSA
Banned
Great point! That has always been my view and opinion, yet if I ever happen to have the gaul to put forward my view on any of these negative threads it is only a few minutes before I get "attacked" by all and sundry for being so stupid and "only a fool". I have never once had anyone enter into debate.
In fact rather than entering any sort of debate I am merely told that my opinion has already been "proven wrong". As far as I am aware the World Cup is in 2010 and I would only be able to be proved wrong then...
Moederloos
Honorary Master
That is an exaggeration - we are right now involved in one (a debate).
I do not recall ever having called you a fool, or stupid - and I do recall us debating.
I may have called your argument foolish though
.I try, when possible, and when my blood pressure is normal, to play the ball and not the man. I make exceptions for Pooky, though.
And I may have "played you once" - I do not claim an eidetic memory. But it is certainly not my normal MO.
LancelotSA
Banned
That is an exaggeration - we are right now involved in one (a debate).
I do not recall ever having called you a fool, or stupid - and I do recall us debating.
I may have called your argument foolish though
I try, when possible, and when my blood pressure is normal, to play the ball and not the man. I make exceptions for Pooky, though.
And I may have "played you once" - I do not claim an eidetic memory. But it is certainly not my normal MO.
Fair enough Moederloos, I too do not always know exactly where the "attack" came from and tend to tar everyone who does attack me with the same feathers. My reponses often have to be to a number of attackes at once and obviously they do not always say the exact same things but their train of thought is similar.
I will correct you on the one point you made... you may not have called me a fool directly but I do not need to be of the highest intelligence to deduce who this was aimed at....
"Only a fool will stick steadfastly to an opinion that is proven wrong."
EDIT : I too may now have made a common error of responding in haste without reading your entire post.... I see you do point out that my argument is foolish and not me.... but still not sure that would not make me foolish by association!
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