Esquire vs 2600(k)

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Is Esquire planning/able to procure any stock on these processors?

No stock since day 1 these came out?

All online stores seems to be able to find/sell 2600(k)'s, is there a distribution problem from Intel to SA/Esquire?

Do they never place stock on the online system, perhaps?
 
Maybe look elsewhere for one. I'm pretty sure esquire won't be the cheapest with these cpus. ;)
 
ttygt said:
Is Esquire planning/able to procure any stock on these processors?

No stock since day 1 these came out?

All online stores seems to be able to find/sell 2600(k)'s, is there a distribution problem from Intel to SA/Esquire?

Do they never place stock on the online system, perhaps?
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Typical online shena****ns. Place an order and they might 'stock' one.
 
Doubt they'll ever sell it. They cater more for the low - mid range market (Yes, I know the 2500k and 2600k is midrange).

I emailed to ask about the 2600K and 2500K a while back, they replied saying yes they do sell those CPUs but in the quote that was attached it was the standard 2500 and 2600. Doesn't seem like they know what they're selling.
 
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ttygt said:
Is Esquire planning/able to procure any stock on these processors?

No stock since day 1 these came out?

All online stores seems to be able to find/sell 2600(k)'s, is there a distribution problem from Intel to SA/Esquire?

Do they never place stock on the online system, perhaps?
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since the release of the Sandy Bridge processors we have sold 1741 units of stk#BX80623172600K @R2199.00 excl vat
there is however a supply constraint on all LGA1155 processors and were assured by the Vendor that it would be resolved by this month.

Regarding Processors it is true that we do cater for the low end and Midrange processors as we purchase an excess of 15 000 processors per month and 90% of that for the low to Mid markets segment , however we do always have stock on High end processors as well, which we cater for our gaming division.

I am told that our processors have already been shipped and should be here in Midrand branch by Monday afternoon.

You most welcome to PM or email me at [email protected] for information.
 
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ttygt said:
Is Esquire planning/able to procure any stock on these processors?

No stock since day 1 these came out?

All online stores seems to be able to find/sell 2600(k)'s, is there a distribution problem from Intel to SA/Esquire?

Do they never place stock on the online system, perhaps?
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Just did a costing on the Core i7 2600k price will be R2139.00 excl vat stock will arrive on Monday morning if you in Midrand or Tuesday or Wednesday at other branches.
 
Thanx Esquire, that explains it.

Will def. place order.

(I periodically check on the online system tee see stock, and have never seen stock available, but now I understand why.)
 
Interesting to know that Esquire sells direct to public....which is killing alot of IT shops in our country. Which is really sad because to create jobs you need systems in place to protect the stores which carry stock and have staff members. Look at how pricing is made public here which makes it so hard for anyone to sell their processors now with any mark up. I still have 2 in stock which was purchased for way more than what they are quoting end users. I think its time i give Mohammed a call!
 
Chris Erodis said:
Interesting to know that Esquire sells direct to public....which is killing alot of IT shops in our country. Which is really sad because to create jobs you need systems in place to protect the stores which carry stock and have staff members. Look at how pricing is made public here which makes it so hard for anyone to sell their processors now with any mark up. I still have 2 in stock which was purchased for way more than what they are quoting end users. I think its time i give Mohammed a call!
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Hello Chris

Thank you for the comment , Just to let you know that we do not sell directly to the end user public but made a concession to supply MyBB members two years ago with phenomenal success as we have over 2000 registered MyBB that purchase from us.

We regard MyBB members to be extremely knowledgeable when it comes to hardware and troubleshooting and in fact use some of the posts as a platform when we are trying to solve technical issues ourselves hence we opened up the channel to MyBB members.

Regarding the posting of pricing on the processor i.e. Core i7 2600K this was to make a point that we do have those processors in stock contrary to popular belief that we do not sell them.

Regarding you statement that this is “is killing alot of IT shops in our country” I disagree as IT shops in this country have been used to selling at 30-40% margins and need to change with the times and understand that those type of margins do not exist any longer in our industry , Take a look at some of the Mass retailers as they too have embraced the change of selling at between 7-10% margins that is why you see those goods deals and Mass Retailers.

When it comes to processors , Hard Drives , Memory , Flash drives please do not keep them in stock as with the fluctuation of the Rand, prices are very Volatile. an example will be today we just got 5000 pieces of Samsung 2gb DDr3 133 memory(oem) that is a 20% drop from last week prices.

Next week Hard Disk drives will be between 5-7% cheaper as Fuel surcharge that we pay have been reduced that is why you seen that we have already drop our Samsung pricing this week , next week we doing it with our Seagate drives when they arrive on Monday.

You are most welcome to call me or come meet me as I have always and will always have an open door policy.

Best Regards
ESQ
 
I am sorry i don't agree with you at all! It's seems like you don't seem to understand that in order to keep the industry alive retailers need to make 20% gp in order to cover overheads and also employ qualified proffesional staff in order to keep the end user happy with proper service. And another thing is dont tell me you are making 2-7% margin because u and i both know that is rubbish. If you take the running costs of esquire nation wide it far exceeds the gp projections you are making. In order to keep your doors open you need to to make alot more than that.
Plus there are too many retailers in the it industry who are prostituting their products in order to get the sale just to keep their doors open, which is what you are promoting by supplying the public. Retailers should not be fighting by price but through service levels. To keep the economy going strong all companies should be making good profit create jobs. As a distributor you should know this and look after the companies that have supported esquire all these years like myself and many others. We have to go through so much kak in the past to be able to get supply from esquire. Now this just makes me and many other dealers angry. We stock and promote your product and this is the return we get.
 
Hello Chris

Thank you again for your comments , I fully agree with you that as an IT retailer you do have to make a decent margin to offer the service to the end user and 20% is a fair margin to make on a customer that wants service , however like I said numerous times that we do not have the expertise nor the infrastructure to support the end user and that is why we do not sell to them , however with MyBB members they are Tech Savvy and do not need the technical support that is needed that is why we have opened the channel to them.

I also fully agree that if a person wants a professional service then they should be prepared to pay more , with us it is volume based business and offer the backup and swop out of that item, sure sometimes we do get it wrong but that is because we do over 1000 invoices per day across all branches and can never please everyone but we continue to find solutions and address them in our weekly “ Post Mortem of the week”

When we started this business 10 years ago our model was to go low as possible and just to let you know that we do work on between 5-10% margin but move volume based on our pricing. This model has worked for us as we grew from a three man operation to over 260 staff country wide and still employing ( just employed 10 new people this month).

As far as getting stock from us is concern we continually addressing stock issues as we can never get enough stock from vendors or underestimate the selling patterns of a particular product .

Example last week we got in 6400 Sony DVD writer and 1000 Sony Blu-Ray drives this week we have only 1763 DVD’s left and only 481 Blu Ray drives with another 250 going out next week in Cape Town , new stocks will only arrive end of June so they will be a stock issue until then.
The reason for moving this volume is that we are making 7% of the DVD writers and 10 % on the Blu-Ray drives.

You are most welcome to contact us to see how we can help you grow your business as we have full Retail team that goes out to IT retailers to help merchandise and look at ways to increase business at your shop and offer advertising rebates and advice like we do for the Mass Retailers.
 
I wonder what would happen if Rectron, Pinnacle Micro, Axiz, Sahara and TVR come and join in on the on the fun. This way we could cut out all retailers and then we should see a decline in your percentage of sales on this forum. And i am sure there are many more who will read this and support what i have to say about your wreckless trading. I have mailed most of the dealers and some distributors about this issue here. I have had public members walk into my store with quotes from Esquire and requesting that i should beat your price, but instead of helping them i sent them back to to Esquire because there was no way i could complete with "MY SUPPLIER"
You keep stressing that members here can buy and that it is because they assist members on this forum but you make no intension of giving us the retailers price protection on this forum instead you do do the opposite.
You are right on 1 thing i must add, you do not have the expertise on the products you sell. Most of your staff do not know what they selling because as i have seem many times when placing an order they do not have a clue what your looking for.

Anyways as Al Pachino would sing "and i'll dance a little side step"
 
On the contrary ,almost all Distributors sell to directly to the public and corporates but hide that fact that they do it . in fact last month one of the Distributors and their sister company sent out Flyers at Traffic lights to the End User public offering them to purchase without any registrations , I never seen anyone make mention of that here on the forums yet while we are transparent it becomes an issue.

I also know for a fact that many of the largest IT retailers and Electronics stores in this country import directly and supply directly to the end user public at wholesale prices, This too is cutting out the Supply Chain Model. One of the Korean Vendors and another Overseas vendors have also started supplying directly to large Retailers and cutting out Wholesale channel. That is why we are seeing some crazy prices from these Retailers.

Regarding our expertise , I agree with you that many times sale people do not know their products that is because we have over 4000 line items but we have already addressed that issue by employing new Product managers for different products and reducing the number of items we carry.

This has been one of the short comings and is already addressed.

Chris You are most welcome to call us and we are most willing to help you grow your business as we have the expertise to do that , we have successfully taken non IT companies such as General Dealers and successfully giving them extra revenues in this tough economy we can do the same for you.

I hope we can now stop this debate as we are not going to stop selling to MyBB members as it is now part our business model and has been for the last two years and has been extremely successful not only for us but also for MyBB members that make a living out of it.
 
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Yes you're right i must stop because i am wasting my time talking to you as you have just demontrated your motivation to continue with this trend and i personally believe you started looking elsewhere(the public for sales) because of things getting difficult in the industry. Yes i will give u a call soon next week and just to give you a heads up about why i am so pissed off is because i sat with Mohammed about this matter before and he asured me and other that this has ended. Lets not forget i was very close to Esquire for a long time and know alot of people within Esquire....but we will leave this for our personal conversationwhen i call u.
I hope you are not Richard or Nicholas.

Have a great Weekend
 
Chris Erodis said:
Yes you're right i must stop because i am wasting my time talking to you as you have just demontrated your motivation to continue with this trend and i personally believe you started looking elsewhere(the public for sales) because of things getting difficult in the industry. Yes i will give u a call soon next week and just to give you a heads up about why i am so pissed off is because i sat with Mohammed about this matter before and he asured me and other that this has ended. Lets not forget i was very close to Esquire for a long time and know alot of people within Esquire....but we will leave this for our personal conversationwhen i call u.
I hope you are not Richard or Nicholas.

Have a great Weekend
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AFAIK Esquire here = Mahomed...
 
:wtf::wtf::wtf:

Open fight between a wholesaler and a reseller - holee....

My five cents - Chris, you are never going to snag the customer who buys on price - if you offer excellent service and support, people will be willing to pay you a higher price 'cos you will be adding value to the product.

If you're just boxing up and reselling, well, then what do you expect.
 
We MyBB members know people who can buy at rectron, etc if we can't buy there ourselves, so the point is moot.

I am part of the 10% who DONT need to be told why the new DDR3 Memory I bought doesn't work on my DDR2 Mobo, so why should I pay for that service?

I have an esquire account and also know many people who can buy at wholesalers, yet I still often go to matrix, etc.... in fact last week I spent R1700 on a KB and mouse there.
As a matter of fact I have never even bought at Esquire...


Stop worrying about Tech Savvy MyBB users as we are only a small %, and have MANY other channels anyway.

If you want to sell us something with huge markups, don't moan when people ask you "Why?"
 
@ Keeper and AfricanTech you are missing the point here. Whats happening is sales people are abusing this account at Esquire and this happens daily. And the only time anyone who supports the idea of having access to product from Esquire through the incorrect channels its because they do not have a store front or have huge overheads to cover.
And service is not about what DDR3 memory u need, its about providing technical assistance for when hardware or software fails. As a system builder there are alot of key areas that needs attention and if those are addressed properly then there won't be a need for end users to be serching the net on how to get their new hardware working correctly in the first place. So many "CLEVER" end users always end up sending hardware back and saying it does not work and they have had many others confirm the same thing but in the end everything works fine because they do not know all the technical specifications and limitation of certain hardware.
Then we start to have end users who dont know what they are doing giving manufacturers bad reviews on hardware based on their own ignorance.

I do not worry about losing a sale to another retailer at all because we will be providing different service levels to get the sale, some use price and others use exclusivity in the mannor they treat customers. This argument is about my supplier cutting across my daily operation in their branch.

I have no issues with any member here as this is not their fault or doing.
 
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