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Dade Murphy

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I've decided to use a hard connection from the Billion 400G to the PS3, in attempt to improve the terrible lag.

Looks like i'm going to need an ethernet cable roughly around 15 metres long, but where do i buy it from? Incredible Connection? Hi-Fi Corporation?

How much does it cost?

Any suggestions or information appreciated
 
Get from your local PC store instead. Not so sure on cost but you can pay R100-R200. Also insist that they test the cable in front of you.

But you say you have lag. I've got a 384 line with Telkom (and the Telkom modem) and no problems with my PS3 when playing online (wifi connection). Perhaps even try a different ISP first.
 
Yeah, but just make sure its working correctly if you can, bought a 35m cable and after running it through the whole house I found out it was faulty and had to replace it
 
MickeyD said:
Where are you based?
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Johannesburg

cbrunsdonza said:
I've got a 384 line with Telkom (and the Telkom modem) and no problems with my PS3 when playing online (wifi connection). Perhaps even try a different ISP first.
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Both Axxess and Mweb produce the same results. It's not a 'problem' as such, but when watching a killcam on CoD, it's evident that there's about a 1 second difference between command and reaction time, if you know what i mean. Is it perhaps the slow 384 line speed to blame?
 
I would put it down to the line and not the Wifi. I was originally hesitant to play online with WiFi but have yet to experience any game lag that I need to run cable.
 
ja i wouldn't buy anything from incredible corruption or hi-waai your-money, they're terribly overpriced. like said, rather have a local pc shop make one up for you -if they want more than say r45 they're taking chances. wrt the lag issue, not sure if there's much difference between wifi and wired in a personal network scenario, maybe a few ms (1000ms = 1 second),, won't know til you try i guess?
 
With my router, wifi to pc latency is 18ms, while cable to pc latency is 1ms.
 
Good wireless N infrastructure will give no lag at all.

Equipment used: D-Link DiR-855 router and Intel 5300 WLAN minicard (on laptop).

I'll ping for 65500 bytes or else the data will be pretty meaningless.

At router:

Pinging 192.168.0.1 with 65500 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=65500 time=18ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=65500 time=18ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=65500 time=18ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=65500 time=18ms TTL=64

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 18ms, Maximum = 18ms, Average = 18ms
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~10m from router:
No significant increase when I go to the edges of my house on the same plane

Pinging 192.168.0.1 with 65500 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=65500 time=18ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=65500 time=21ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=65500 time=23ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=65500 time=19ms TTL=64

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 18ms, Maximum = 23ms, Average = 20ms
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~15 metres from router, down stairs:
Going down stairs slows it down significantly but not unusably.

Pinging 192.168.0.1 with 65500 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=65500 time=37ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=65500 time=82ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=65500 time=36ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=65500 time=45ms TTL=64

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 36ms, Maximum = 82ms, Average = 50ms
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~25 metres from router, down stairs, outside:
This seems to be the limit, internet is browsable but I wouldn't load up any games.

Pinging 192.168.0.1 with 65500 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=65500 time=229ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=65500 time=208ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=65500 time=200ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=65500 time=193ms TTL=64

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 193ms, Maximum = 229ms, Average = 207ms
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20m CAT5 UTP cable +- R 50-R60 ... get them to test it in front of you.
You do get different qualities of cable , so try find a high quality cable at a decent price.
Also , there are different types , UV-protected for outdoor use , shielded , non-shielded , flex ...etc etc.
 
Loopin said:
Good wireless N infrastructure will give no lag at all
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Brave statment. Just keep in mind that Wireless regardless of if its 802.11a b/g is that its RF signaling and you will ALWAYS have packetloss. Yes you can configure your wireless infrastucture to minimize the amount thats lost over a certain time period and with that limiting the retransmitions. But Wireless takes much more work to perfect. As our daily lives has more and more electronic devices surrounding us with RF signals that intervere with our Wireless devices. A good wireless design takes a good understanding of RF signaling and also its channels.
 
Well, I'm posting from experience and gave real world data to show it.

I don't doubt that wireless is inferior to wired with regards to stability and speed, but wireless is a hell of a lot neater and a hell of a lot more convenient. Especially if you're a laptop person like me.

I play games and have never felt compromised due to my internal network.
 
Go to Cable Link in Strydom Park. They will have what you need at a good price.
 
Loopin said:
Pinging 192.168.0.1 with 65500 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=65500 time=18ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=65500 time=18ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=65500 time=18ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=65500 time=18ms TTL=64

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 18ms, Maximum = 18ms, Average = 18ms
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I get 2ms, 5 metres from router through thick wall using wireless G :P

TP-Link router

I'll have to test other places

Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=64

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 3ms, Maximum = 4ms, Average = 3ms

Thats about 20 metres or so from router
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Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=64

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 4ms, Maximum = 4ms, Average = 4ms

Thats about 40 - 50 metres from router by property boundary
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Had 0% Packet Loss

So with a good router and wireless theres not too much difference even with wireless G
 
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Remember I did my tests at 65500 bytes, if I did it at lower bytes they'd all be between 1 and 10ms.
 
how do i test with 65500 then gives request timed out here

seems 1024 is maxium mine can do
 
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Clearly you gents are ICMP experts. Anyone thats qualified in the wireless networking field would tell you. That packetloss is a fact of RF signaling. N wireless is a combenation of 802.11a and 802.11g used at the same time. Giving you more channels to work with where you can infact send on a channel and recieve data on another. If you compared to ethernet standards you can see it as Wireless with Full Dupelxing.

Considering the original question then considering the cost involved with some wireless tech. A 15 meter UTP Cat5 cable is best bang for your buck. Wireless has an place ofcourse (As i have been working with Mikrotik,Cisco,linksys,Dlink,arronet, and many more for over 5 years). Not in this case. I am also a gamer and use to play in the Do Gaming Leagues COD4. Doing ICMP test doesnt show you your packetloss when you test it for a few seconds. Your AP would give you stats on RX and TX retransmitions (packets lost).

Have a nice day and hope my input helped.
 
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