Ethernet

alqassam said:
Its for streaming movies etc mostly hd content
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Two gigabit switches and cable will be the best option...if you can run conduits along the building down and bury it underground it would even be better....but I dont think building management would approve of that.
Or attach it behind gutter pipes.

If you dont mind the cost though, 2x 801.11 AC APs would work with 15dbm directional antennas should be fine also...not sure of the cost in SA
 
Nameite said:
Two gigabit switches and cable will be the best option...if you can run conduits along the building down and bury it underground it would even be better....but I dont think building management would approve of that.
Or attach it behind gutter pipes.

If you dont mind the cost though, 2x 801.11 AC APs would work with 15dbm directional antennas should be fine also...not sure of the cost in SA
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Both units are on the 6tb floor on opposite sides of the building with the roof above us. So i will run conduit on roof for the cabling
 
MightyQuin said:
Let me see: installing 80m of Cat6e cable, labour and materials will cost approx. R 600. Ubiquity WiFi giving you TRUE 100Mbps up and own, cost approx. R30 000. Why not indeed....
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Let me see.
Ubiquity WiFi giving you TRUE 100Mbps up and own, cost approx. R30 000.
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Please show me exactly where you got this from.
 
irBosOtter said:
Most of these chapo wireless stuff will never give you true TCP troughtput of 100Mbps.
UDP traffic yes, but not TCP.
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I have that set and I get that pretty much.

But even if I go mikrotik and a proper antena it still wont be R30000

My question isn't about the troughtput of 100Mbps, it's about how he got to R30 000 for the Ubiquiti
 
alqassam said:
Is it possible to run an ethernet cable 60 to 80 m across a building. To allow for content sharing
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alqassam said:
Both units are on the 6tb floor on opposite sides of the building with the roof above us. So i will run conduit on roof for the cabling
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Use a 1TB or 2TB external hard drive. Much less headache. What you're trying to do is a very convoluted solution for simple file sharing and it's going to be a lot of work to get it up and shield the cables from the elements.
 
NAG - Wesley said:
Use a 1TB or 2TB external hard drive. Much less headache. What you're trying to do is a very convoluted solution for simple file sharing and it's going to be a lot of work to get it up and shield the cables from the elements.
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I could do that but then it wont be realtime. Also someone would need to fetch the drive and bring it back which allows for accidental breakage . I also want to share my plex server.
 
alqassam said:
I could do that but then it wont be realtime. Also someone would need to fetch the drive and bring it back which allows for accidental breakage . I also want to share my plex server.
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Its a much simpler solution. You don't have problems with file sharing and viruses, you don't have to allow a strange computer into your network (and possibly eat up bandwidth). If the files just get copied over once and the drive gets returned to you, there's little chance of breakage. You can even get the other person to buy the drive themselves and give it to you every week. If they want you to go through the trouble of figuring this all out for their benefit, they can pay for the hardware.

Your solution is running Cat5E cabling on the outside of a building on the sixth story through PVC shielding. How you're going to do that without a movable crane is going to be a tricky task. I don't think you've accounted for rain getting into the pipe somehow, or attaching to the cable itself and running into your Ethernet port. I did network installations for a local ISP that uses a wireless WAN and several of our Ubiquity routers were damaged in that way because of improper shielding for the cables that ran through the holes drilled in the side of the building.

Do you have any mock-ups of a floor plan for this building you live in? If you're on the same level, is there no courtyard in the middle of the building? Do the doors of these two flats not face each other in some way?
 
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NAG - Wesley said:
Its a much simpler solution. You don't have problems with file sharing and viruses, you don't have to allow a strange computer into your network (and possibly eat up bandwidth). If the files just get copied over once and the drive gets returned to you, there's little chance of breakage. You can even get the other guy to buy the drive himself and give it to you every week. If he wants you to go through the trouble of figuring this all out for his benefit, he can pay for the hardware himself.

Your solution is running Cat5E cabling on the outside of a building on the sixth story through PVC shielding. How you're going to do that without a movable crane is going to be a tricky task. I don't think you've accounted for rain getting into the pipe somehow, or attaching to the cable itself and running into your Ethernet port. I did network installations for a local ISP that uses a wireless WAN and several of our Ubiquity routers were damaged in that way because of improper shielding for the cables that ran through the holes drilled in the side of the building.

Do you have any mock-ups of a floor plan for this building you live in? If you're on the same level, is there no courtyard in the middle of the building? Do the doors of these two flats not face each other in some way?
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Its a residential building. Currently all the satellite dishes are on thr top of the building with wires running down the side and into the residential units.

I can walk on the roof to law the conduit but the sides of the building will have to be exposed cannot lay conduit there
 
alqassam said:
Its a residential building. Currently all the satellite dishes are on thr top of the building with wires running down the side and into the residential units.

I can walk on the roof to law the conduit but the sides of the building will have to be exposed cannot lay conduit there
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If you do this, the conduit needs to be tacked on to the ground so that people won't break the cable or trip over it in mid-air. You'll need to use Cat6 cable because it's usually thicker and the shielded forms of that are a lot more resilient to interference. You'll need to somehow tack the cable running down the building on to the wall, having it whip about will damage the shielding. You'll also need to use something to plug the hole you're going to drill through the wall, so something like glue will work - can't let that water run into the wall and pool up there.

However, if the body governing the building has rules against permanent fixtures, you're going to have to figure something out that isn't a permanent arrangement.

Have you or any other flat owners in the building thought about approaching the owners of the building and discussing the possibility of building in a local LAN to provide internet and local routing?
 
I don't know what your budget is but why not go fibre? With these units you can have 1000Mb/s, 500m links, and you don't have to worry about interference and lightning.
 
D4N said:
I don't know what your budget is but why not go fibre? With these units you can have 1000Mb/s, 500m links, and you don't have to worry about interference and lightning.
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Go price the hardware for fibre-optic networking first.
 
Thor187 said:
What is the price of fiber cable ?
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HD cabling says R12 per meter for bog-standard stuff.

So that would be:

R960 for 80m of fiber
R90 for the fiber connectors
R359 for the stripping tool made for 125 micron cable
R1200 for two Fiber>Gigabit ethernet RJ45 converters

Total: R2609

You could buy several external 2TB drives with that money.
 
Omg Fiber cable is very cheap if you take price-per-bandwidth ratio.

Imagine setting up a fiber lan....


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I don't know hey running cables between buildings its a hassle.

My personal suggestion would be wireless.

Those Pico and Nano stations will do the trick for less than a 1000 bucks if you need two thats about 1900 buks.
 
Thor187 said:
It's A LOT of cable A LOT.

1 Nano station would suffice it goes through walls it's very alien like tech.
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My nano station in the living room give me signal up to 112m away and 200m in the opposite direction due to less walls that side.
 
Thor187 said:
My nano station in the living room give me signal up to 112m away and 200m in the opposite direction due to less walls that side.
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It depends on what the building is made of and how many solid walls there are between the flats. If there's concrete with wire mesh inside, that could be a problem. 802.11n 2.4GHz AC might penetrate enough walls for a weak signal, but that's still a lot of money for expensive hardware which might not end up being suitable for the task.

Thor187 said:
Imagine setting up a fiber lan....
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I'd still use a gigabit Ethernet or 10GigE for a local LAN. Fiber isn't really suitable for that purpose, but it works well for high-speed rings between servers or connections to remote offices or other buildings or for internet connecticity.
 
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Trust me the nano station will penetrate through residential buildings.

That thing is not a joke if you have line of sight well..... Put that bad boy in the window.
 
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