Exodus causes concern

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Familiar title, and the following are some fairly familiar headlines:

*Record number of people leave

*Why are so many people leaving

*Emigration soars

*Biggest brain drain
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And some familiar quotes:
Perception of crime is another of the main reasons for people wanting to leave," he said.
"Also, people are worried about their children and they worry about their jobs and their future here and possibly the economy as well."
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The dearth of good schools, spiralling house prices, rising crime and tax increases are also driving people away.
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“They’re saying ‘I can’t put my children into the right school, but if I move abroad I can’.
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“It’s a shame people at the top don’t recognise they’re not doing enough to retain highly skilled workers in this country. A lot of them are quite young, and they’re not idle. They just can’t see a future for themselves in this country. They want to get married and settle down and buy homes, but they can’t see it happening here.
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Sounds all very South African, but its not.
These are quotes taken from U.K. newspapers beginning 7 months ago up till this month.
And then we find:
Australia, New Zealand, Canada and South Africa seemed to be the most popular destinations for emigration
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Most people are relocating within the Commonwealth – in Australia, Canada and South Africa. They are almost all young professionals and skilled workers aged 20-40.
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August 2007
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/15642/4,000-people-a-week-trying-to-leave-UK
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6958220.stm
November 2007
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/11/15/nemi115.xml
http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/11/16/why-are-so-many-people-leaving-the-uk/

Feb 2008:
No other nation is losing so many qualified people. Britain has now lost more than one in 10 of its most skilled citizens
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Figures from the Office for National Statistics last year, suggested that 207,000 Britons - one every three minutes - left in 2006. The emigration rate is at its highest since just after the Second World War.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/21/nexodus121.xml

Articles on brain drain from Canada, India, Germany, U.S. and interesting reading in Wiki. (some a little dated , but still worth reading)
Seems to be not only a local issue, but rather a global one.

http://www.lib.uwo.ca/business/braindrain.html
http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/09-14-04.asp
http://in.rediff.com/money/2005/feb/16india.htm
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/europe/german-brain-drain-at-highest-level-since-1940s-451250.html
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...rain_drain_says_study/articleshow/2302417.cms
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_drain
 
At least the UK is getting many of the SA skilled people ;)
 
Very intetresting post. Thanks.

One difference is, is that I think the UK and other 1st world countries are able to replace the skilled workers that leave. Where in SA, there are not enough engineers, accountants etc that are graduating to replace the ones that leave. A debatelable point is that even those that are graduating - is the quality of their education sufficient.
 
There is one thing this article is missing...

SA is losing its skilled workers from across the board, young and old.. THATS the problem. UK etc can replace the young ones since the guys with experience are still hanging around. We're loosing the guys with experience as well as the guys to replace them.
 
Many of these first world countries are not even able to produce graduates fast enough to keep up with their needs.
 
UK don't really have a Brain Drain with our Brain Drain supplying them....
 
ToxicBunny said:
There is one thing this article is missing...

SA is losing its skilled workers from across the board, young and old.. THATS the problem. UK etc can replace the young ones since the guys with experience are still hanging around. We're loosing the guys with experience as well as the guys to replace them.
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To add more to your post... if 1Million people have left since SA 1994, that makes it a rate of 200 people PER DAY!
 
The more they lose the easier for me to get in, so I ain't going to complain.:)
 
When all those buggering of from the UK come to SA then it is relevant.
Perhaps the UK guv will react to address the problems before it gets as bad as we have here. Wonder if those leaving are also racists, clinging to their past?
 
Migrating

Germany is loosing between 150 000 & 180 000yearly.
Destination Canada-Aust. NZ & Namibia.
But with a population of more then 82 Million, 40 Million
have a job and without jobs around 3.5 Millionen. So no
big Problem I think. If you earn less then Euro 2000.
a month you can apply to receive a rent subsidy.
If I go, I'll will have to apply. So I rather stay.
 
stefan9 said:
The more they lose the easier for me to get in, so I ain't going to complain.:)
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the more people getting out of SA , the easier for me to get a job :D

thank goodness i did the right degree :)

this poltergeist is staying :D
 
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Arko2 said:
Germany is loosing between 150 000 & 180 000yearly.
Destination Canada-Aust. NZ & Namibia.
But with a population of more then 82 Million, 40 Million
have a job and without jobs around 3.5 Millionen. So no
big Problem I think. If you earn less then Euro 2000.
a month you can apply to receive a rent subsidy.
If I go, I'll will have to apply. So I rather stay.
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Germany's very socialist. I know a lot of people
who want to leave Germany because the taxes
are high and salaries low.
 
Well it time for SA to stand on its own feet.Whites leave leave then blacks can only blame themselves.(That will never happen but anyway).Fact is bEE will not work ,go write a CFA exam (highest/best qualification for investment industry.)Now black women are top of the food chain in Sa .Saw 3 black women out of 400(pass rate is 38% so 1 out of 3 might pass).Who is the majority 60-70% people writing CFA.The White male.Who is not wanted to add value in this country?.The White Male.Who is smiling overseas companies.Who is loosing out SA.Now you do the maths and put your polotical agendas to the side and make informed logical decisions.When I see what BEE is doing ,no wonder people want to leave.You could argue that BEE is needed ,but that is saying that their is going to be enough BEE candidates around to fill the roles.Unfortunatey there is just not enough.
 
jambai said:
Well it time for SA to stand on its own feet.Whites leave leave then blacks can only blame themselves.(That will never happen but anyway).Fact is bEE will not work ,go write a CFA exam (highest/best qualification for investment industry.)Now black women are top of the food chain in Sa .Saw 3 black women out of 400(pass rate is 38% so 1 out of 3 might pass).Who is the majority 60-70% people writing CFA.The White male.Who is not wanted to add value in this country?.The White Male.Who is smiling overseas companies.Who is loosing out SA.Now you do the maths and put your polotical agendas to the side and make informed logical decisions.When I see what BEE is doing ,no wonder people want to leave.You could argue that BEE is needed ,but that is saying that their is going to be enough BEE candidates around to fill the roles.Unfortunatey there is just not enough.
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I agree. Also, what they SAID about BEE sounded fair, but in practice they don't implement it :sick:
 
Interesting. I understand Canada and Australia. But I dont see why anyone would move to South Africa given those complaints about the UK. Everything they mentioned is about 10 times worse here. Apparently they disagree. They should've googled a bit.
 
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