Exposing the Honey Influencer Scam

quovadis said:

Turns out Honey has been replacing/overriding affiliate links.


A YouTuber has been investing Honey for a while, and some of its results are less than ideal. Apparently, it overrides any affiliate links on the checkout page, effectively denying the creator that got you there their commission.
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I'd hardly call this a scam - it does exactly what it says on the box. Just because someone doesn't like it doesn't make it a scam.

I only wish they had coupons for ZA stores.
 
Speedster said:
I'd hardly call this a scam - it does exactly what it says on the box. Just because someone doesn't like it doesn't make it a scam.

I only wish they had coupons for ZA stores.
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Marketing claims aside, replacing affiliate codes or inserting affiliate codes is dodgy.
 
FiestaST said:
Two sides to a story?

I will never be "silenced" here. Never have & never will here.

If you don't like you should know my rebuttal.
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Driving fast in a school zone?

Repeat traffic tickets?

BS seller.

Why is this scumbag your hero?

The guy has no ethics. Or he can't reason. He can't put - if I drive fast in a school zone, I could kill a child - in his head. Maybe I shouldn't record such activities....? And if I want to race, I can pay for a track. Right? Well f- the people who use the road and safety rules are not my concern. I can't reason. But trust me on how I promote things and believe me when I tell you I used this product.

He edits the video. To lie to his followers. But he doesn't even edit the passenger side speed display.

That should be enough to show what disdain this guy has for his audience.
 
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FiestaST said:
Lulz.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1874193293543956582
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The creators are just as evil. Because they peddle BS. They promote things they themselves don't understand. And none of these guys are educated. They just started BS peddling channels. The thing is that this Honey thing shows that the emperor has no clothes. It caught them with their pants down.

Honey exposes them for being charlatans. How can you trust these people when they promote snake oil for money?

Luis Rossmann did a thing about them too.
 
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quovadis said:
Marketing claims aside, replacing affiliate codes or inserting affiliate codes is dodgy.
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Except that everyone in the industry knows, and plays by, the last click attribution standard. Sure, Honey is sneaky, but it's not like they've ever tried to say they're doing anything different.

What this guy crying on his YT channel fails to mention is that the "influencers" were paid to promote Honey. It's not like they were doing this out of the goodness of their heart.
 
Speedster said:
Except that everyone in the industry knows, and plays by, the last click attribution standard. Sure, Honey is sneaky, but it's not like they've ever tried to say they're doing anything different.

What this guy crying on his YT channel fails to mention is that the "influencers" were paid to promote Honey. It's not like they were doing this out of the goodness of their heart.
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Sure but they're separate issues. If Google or Microsoft started jacking affiliate tracking links I'm sure it would be equally as problematic.
 
Mirai said:
Driving fast in a school zone?

Repeat traffic tickets?

BS seller.

Why is this scumbag your hero?
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Dude WTF, it’s a new year for fark sake.

My hero? How about your ability to be an objective furker & understand the concept of two sides to a story.

Watch the video or don’t it makes zero difference to me.

If you don’t like the post then move the eff on, come now. It’s extremely simple concept.
 
Mirai said:
The creators are just as evil. Because they peddle BS. They promote things they themselves don't understand. And none of these guys are educated. They just started BS peddling channels. The thing is that this Honey thing shows that the emperor has no clothes. It caught them with their pants down.

Honey exposes them for being charlatans. How can you trust these people when they promote snake oil for money?

Luis Rossmann did a thing about them too.
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This point I mostly side with you. We have a commonality here.
 
quovadis said:
Sure but they're separate issues. If Google or Microsoft started jacking affiliate tracking links I'm sure it would be equally as problematic.
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Not if they told everyone they were doing it, gave you the option to opt-in, and provided discounts on the products for doing so.
 
FiestaST said:
Dude WTF, it’s a new year for fark sake.

My hero? How about your ability to be an objective furker & understand the concept of two sides to a story.

Watch the video or don’t it makes zero difference to me.

If you don’t like the post then move the eff on, come now. It’s extremely simple concept.
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Dude, why do you insult people?
 
Mirai said:
Dude, why do you insult people?
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You're joking right?

Look at the post & how you "started" it all.

Again I'll repeat an incredibly simple concept:

If you don't like a post, any post or it does not agree with you then simply skip it or move on.

I obviously value objectivity hence I linked the vid in the first place.
 
FiestaST said:
You're joking right?

Look at the post & how you "started" it all.

Again I'll repeat an incredibly simple concept:

If you don't like a post, any post or it does not agree with you then simply skip it or move on.

I obviously value objectivity hence I linked the vid in the first place.
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Dude. This is a forum and posts can be challenged. But I didn't insult you. Saying the guy is your hero is a not an insult. You can clarify and say perhaps, well I post him because there's no one else to post and he's still sick among the kids. That would have been fine.

I'm also adding context because not everyone knows about what Marcus has been up to. And I think that reflects on his credibility as someone who can provide advice. I don't think Marcus is credible. I said why.
 
Mirai said:
Dude. This is a forum and posts can be challenged. But I didn't insult you. Saying the guy is your hero is a not an insult. You can clarify and say perhaps, well I post him because there's no one else to post and he's still sick among the kids. That would have been fine.

I'm also adding context because not everyone knows about what Marcus has been up to. And I think that reflects on his credibility as someone who can provide advice. I don't think Marcus is credible. I said why.
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You make it seem like I don't know how to forum lol

My "'issue" with you is your "censoring" attempt, I will not stand for that.

I value objectivity, I linked it for a reason. I'm not some fly by night bum here.

Clearly we have a different view on certain topics & that is fine. Lets leave it at that then.
 
FiestaST said:
You make it seem like I don't know how to forum lol

My "'issue" with you is your "censoring" attempt, I will not stand for that.

I value objectivity, I linked it for a reason. I'm not some fly by night bum here.

Clearly we have a different view on certain topics & that is fine. Lets leave it at that then.
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Not censoring, adding context. Did I report your posts? Did I ask you to delete them? You don't have to respond, bud. I just asked you why because I'm interested why you post this guy. And you're doing the same thing. You're also then censoring, you're saying DON'T COMMENT ABOUT MY POSTS. LOL. Have a good New Years Day.
 
I am still surprised that this is only coming to light now. The Honey problem is older and bigger than "creators" are making it out to be. I am certain that some creators knew exactly how this business model worked.

The other thing that Honey does, what is not now being talked about, is them harvesting ecommerce sites. A business can't opt out, you have to battle the blight. Not only do they manipulate last click attribution, they manipulate the data too.

I don't even want to know how many commission-based internet businesses they have destroyed, and loyalty programs they have screwed. These issues are old.

For as much as Stone took up a class-action against them. Say they do win PayPal, it is only really the precedent that matters, it will be American creators reaping the rewards. The EU should clamp down on this, since their actions tend to ripple better globally.

It is not only Honey, there are many other services like these. Edge has Shopping built-in. Yes, MS does it too. The thing with Honey is that creators are now mad that MegaLag's exposé on Honey is also shining the spotlight on them. I mean, the thumbnail said it all.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
It is not only Honey, there are many other services like these. Edge has Shopping built-in. Yes, MS does it too. The thing with Honey is that creators are now mad that MegaLag's exposé on Honey is also shining the spotlight on them. I mean, the thumbnail said it all.
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I watch quite a bit of YT, and sometimes think to myself all the BS they peddle, obviously none of it is meant for SA market, but everything from betterhelp, to other quacky things make me simply skip through the adverts, knowing they will shill for anything and everything,
 
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