F1 2012 thread

Naks said:
Only bad thing about the race was that the wrong McLaren retired...
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...as Borat would say..."And Vy?"

besides hamilton is the better driver surely; would have been so much better if both cars finised on the podium, less points for Alonzo and closing the championship gap
 
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Something tells me that you support Button, no wait, I think it's Hamilton?
 
Anyway, back onto things.

Bottas has been assigned a William seat for next year which leaves the question of which driver he is replacing. As much as i'd like it to be Maldonado, I can only see Senna getting the sack.

Bottas should be very interesting though, he seems like an excellent driver who can outpace the current two drivers quite a bit,
 
Hugo Chavez paid a lot of money for Pastor to get the seat something like 400 million rands. Can only be Senna.
 
Rosaudio said:
Anyway, back onto things.

Bottas has been assigned a William seat for next year which leaves the question of which driver he is replacing. As much as i'd like it to be Maldonado, I can only see Senna getting the sack.

Bottas should be very interesting though, he seems like an excellent driver who can outpace the current two drivers quite a bit,
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Senna is probably gone. Unless Williams have a major sponsor in the works, they will need Maldonado's money.
 
thestaggy said:
Senna is probably gone. Unless Williams have a major sponsor in the works, they will need Maldonado's money.
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I doubt it williams are actually making plenty money outside of f1. That is how they are funding their team, something to with the kers system in other formats. Porsche is making them plenty money, i recall seeing it on a documentary but williams are doing well.

Using all the money they make to fund their f1 team.

I would not get rid of senna, he finishes races, pastor is a good driver but one win and 15 non finishes cannot be seen in a good light. Williams need to build their car for senna and take someone like massa as the second driver.
 
What would be nice is if Button accepted that his title hopes are over and starts supporting Hamilton. It will be very difficult for Hamilton to win the championship if he has to fight both Alonso AND Button. No matter what happens from now on, i'm sure it will be interesting to watch.
 
vinodh said:
What would be nice is if Button accepted that his title hopes are over and starts supporting Hamilton. It will be very difficult for Hamilton to win the championship if he has to fight both Alonso AND Button. No matter what happens from now on, i'm sure it will be interesting to watch.
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Hamilton is such a nice guy, I'm sure Button is just waiting to jump through hoops for him :p :D.
 
vinodh said:
What would be nice is if Button accepted that his title hopes are over and starts supporting Hamilton. It will be very difficult for Hamilton to win the championship if he has to fight both Alonso AND Button. No matter what happens from now on, i'm sure it will be interesting to watch.
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It has never been McLaren's policy to make one driver inferior to the other. And if it turns out that Hamilton is set to leave, they will be even less inclined to do so.
 
Formula One teams have agreed to go ahead with regulations that will allow designers to cover up the current cars' stepped noses in 2013.

The distinctive look of ten of this year's 12 Formula One cars was a major talking point at the start of the season and on the whole received negative feedback from fans. The noses are a side-effect of regulations for 2012 aimed at protecting drivers from head-on or side-impacts and have resulted in a noticeable step in the noses of all the cars bar the McLaren and Marussia.

However, McLaren technical director Paddy Lowe has confirmed that the teams will have the option of introducing a panel to hide the step in 2013.

"We have agreed a rule that allows a 'modesty panel', which in effect means you can take the existing cars and exiting structures that have a step and put a cover there," he said. "The way it's managed is that the laminate and size of that panel is limited so that you can't create an aero [advantage] out of it and also so that it plays no part in the forward impact."

The FIA has yet to sign off next year's technical regulations, but with all the teams in agreement over the 'modesty panel', Lowe said the change will go ahead.

"It hasn't been formalised but all the teams agree with it and I can't see any reason that it shouldn't happen. If we all agree at a technical level that it's a good thing to do then it will happen; I can't see any real obstacle to that. It gets contentious in other areas that are more political."
 
Well, Williams have all but confirmed Senna is leaving.

Williams want the penalty-prone Pastor Maldonado to stay with them next season but Bruno Senna's future with the Formula One team is less certain, the influential shareholder and executive director Toto Wolff indicated on Tuesday.

The Austrian, increasingly cast as the eventual successor to the team principal and founder, Frank Williams, admitted ahead of Sunday's Singapore Grand Prix that a decision on drivers for 2013 was still some way off.

"We are taking different looks at the issue, but the minute we discuss it we are going to mess up Pastor and Bruno – and maybe others that we try talking to," Wolff told www.formula1.com when asked whether Williams would stick with the same lineup.

"I would give it another month before we are going to have the first idea of what we want."

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Wolff, who works closely with Frank Williams and took on the executive director role in July, made it clear that he expected Maldonado to stay and lead the team further up the grid.

"In 2013 we will have a carry-over of the car so I'd like to see us in the points more regularly. Pastor hopefully stays with us and has learned his lessons – so the next logical step would be the top six in the constructors' – or even top five," he said.

His comments on the Brazilian Senna, nephew of the late triple champion Ayrton who died in a Williams in 1994, were less effusive.

"Bruno is very intelligent and very sensitive and that means he is putting a lot of pressure on himself. Whether it is the name or not, I don't know," he said.

"Every racing driver in F1 is very competitive and Bruno is trying to fight the fact that he hasn't had a huge racing education, as the family didn't want him to go racing. But he has made his way into F1, which means that he is good.

"He has an extremely fast team-mate and he needs to follow his path. He is pushing very hard and we are trying to support him as best we can."
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/sep/18/williams-pastor-maldonado-bruno-senna

He may be a bit of a fireball and finances aside, Maldonado is a deserved race-winner and is without doubt the faster, more talented driver.
 
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