F1 2013 thread

Sinbad said:
And webber's any better? He also ignores team orders when they don't suit him. At least vettel isn't a hypocrite about it.
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You missed the bit where he wanted the team to tell Mark to move over for him half way through the race?
 
Quali 8 tmrw morning, race 9 on sunday... Seems Massa just dropped a monster time in FP2, Forza!!! Hope Ferrari have a good one this weekend:)
 
Yeah, we need Ferrari and Macca in the mix...
Renault, Ferrari, McLaren, Mercedes and Red Bull all gunning for the title.
 
ScottulusMaximus said:
Quali 8 tmrw morning, race 9 on sunday... Seems Massa just dropped a monster time in FP2, Forza!!! Hope Ferrari have a good one this weekend:)
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The only time i ever worry about time is during quali, right now they are testing. The times are nothing more than testing, some will be running full fuel loads, old tires and so on.

Tomorrow morning at 8 we see who is where :D.
 
Mercedes has genuine pace but tomorrow will be all about tires. Vettel may have made a strategic move that will pay of tomorrow or he may end up looking like a chop. Can't wait for the race tomorrow.
 
First pole for Mercedes since 1955... Awesome! Ross Brawn and Hamilton proving that they can make it happen at different teams
 
vinodh said:
Mercedes has genuine pace but tomorrow will be all about tires. Vettel may have made a strategic move that will pay of tomorrow or he may end up looking like a chop. Can't wait for the race tomorrow.
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I doubt he gave 8th to Button strategically lol.
 
TirNaNog said:
First pole for Mercedes since 1955... Awesome! Ross Brawn and Hamilton proving that they can make it happen at different teams
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What? Rubbish they got on pole and won last year.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/17718458

I dunno if i am confused but nico won from pole last in a MERCEDES, mercedes have the best drs and this track is so wide open. When they utilize it the whole lap they will be faster. The tires will be interesting tomorrow though.

Vettel didn't set a time for a reason, he can put fresh options on while the rest will be running 5 or 6 laps before their tires go away. Button and vettel if they can get good starts wll be right in there for the win. In general button has poor starts though but vettel if he can get into 4 or 5th early on he might win.

You are confusing the first pole for a British driver who is driving a mercedes. Certainly isn't the first pole mercedes have had since 1955.
 
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22134326

This is incredible, jenson reckons the top 7 will run out of speed as soon as the second lap :eek:. Holy shyte. Surely the front runners made a huge mistake and should have qualified on the option tires.

Cannot wait to see how it works tomorrow, if their tires are gone by the second lap jenson and vettel depending on their starts could be 15-20 seconds clear with working tires that are up to speed and working well. Then they could afford to make a stop put on the option tires again and try and get them to go to the last say 10 laps put on the softer tires which would last longer, be faster because the car is very light. Hamilton and other 6 guys could find themselves behind much slower cars early on. Giving vettel a pretty easy win and perhaps a podium for button but button never gets off the line very well. I wonder why on earth the likes of hamilton and co would choose to go that route. Might work for them of course but it doesn't look likely. Hamilton also won't have drs the entire lap so his race pace won't be nearly as good as his qualifying pace.

Cannot wait to see the how long the softer tires last tomorrow.
 
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DRS is not available for the entire lap either in qualifying or the race this year. Last year, the rules allowed the use of DRS at any point on the track in practice and qualifying only. Mercedes had a system that stalled the lower element of the rear wing when the upper element opened with DRS activation. That system is banned for the this year. Only Lotus's system of stalling the wing using the airflow based on a change in pressire brought on by a specific speed is allowed. They haven't used it yet in race this year, from what I read, but they seem to be the only team to have it more or less working.

I think you confused Options and Primes. :) Options are the softer tires and Primes are harder.
 
vinodh said:
DRS is not available for the entire lap either in qualifying or the race this year. Last year, the rules allowed the use of DRS at any point on the track in practice and qualifying only. Mercedes had a system that stalled the lower element of the rear wing when the upper element opened with DRS activation. That system is banned for the this year. Only Lotus's system of stalling the wing using the airflow based on a change in pressire brought on by a specific speed is allowed. They haven't used it yet in race this year, from what I read, but they seem to be the only team to have it more or less working.

I think you confused Options and Primes. :) Options are the softer tires and Primes are harder.
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Yea i think i should just use softer and harder to make it less confusing for myself :D. The DRS zones in china are huge though. when hamilton is out front he won't have the drs available to him tomorrow so his race pace should not reflect his qualifying pace,although i said the same about rosberg last year but if i recall grosjean took out like 4 of his main rivals for the victory in the first corner haha. Can't wait for tomorrow!!!!!!, the top 7 better hope for rain.

Thanx for pointing out drs is only available at the same points as the race, missed that somehow :D. Now we wait to see where webber starts, i hope they fill hamiltons car with the right amount of fuel tomorrow.

O yes i wonder how riccardo will go, seemed to have a car as good as button. Maybe a podium up for grabs for him tomorrow if things go right, i don't expect button to start well but if riccardo can who knows.
 
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The front runners on Options could be stopping by Lap 9 latest and Vettel and Button should go way past that. When Button and Vettel finally switch to Options, maybe on their last stint, the track will be rubbered in and should make their Options last longer. Or,it won't really rubber in, they are P1 and P2 with around 15 laps to go, they put on Options thinking they can stretch it to the end, hit the cliff with 4 laps or so remaining and get boned by Hamilton, Alonso and the rest of the savages.
 
vinodh said:
The front runners on Options could be stopping by Lap 9 latest and Vettel and Button should go way past that. When Button and Vettel finally switch to Options, maybe on their last stint, the track will be rubbered in and should make their Options last longer. Or,it won't really rubber in, they are P1 and P2 with around 15 laps to go, they put on Options thinking they can stretch it to the end, hit the cliff with 4 laps or so remaining and get boned by Hamilton, Alonso and the rest of the savages.
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You are assuming though that the options can go 9 laps with a full load and two laps already on the tires, one being flat out as fast as they can go. So 9 laps according to what i have read will be remarkable. They are thinking perhaps 2-6 laps but on race day you never really know but the key for vettel to win is to ensure he gets a good start. By lap 4 or 5 he should be a country mile faster than the option runners if the experts who say the tires will be done within 6 or 7 laps are correct. Button indicated the options could burn out and be up to a second slower shortly after the start.
 
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Pitpass.com seem to think that Hamilton will stop on lap 8/lap 9. Difficult to say what will really happen.
 
vinodh said:
Pitpass.com seem to think that Hamilton will stop on lap 8/lap 9. Difficult to say what will really happen.
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We won't know until tomorrow but we do know the his tires will degrade fast, if vettel can get a good start who knows, this is assuming hamilton will be leading of course which is also not certain but generally he is good at the start. The tires may hold better than people think or they may degrade worse than people think.

Either way it is going to be mighty interesting. I hope they go until lap 9. We need the ham to be in the hunt and winning gp's. Good for the sport and good for the championship. Let's not forget about the other 6 people who were not that far off his pace. rosberg, kimi etc and even vettel was not far off the pace. Considering the lotus is one of the best at looking after their tires who knows maybe kimi can win.

Fascinating GP in store though. Can webber get a podium from so far back again?
 
killadoob said:
TirNaNog said:
First pole for Mercedes since 1955... Awesome! Ross Brawn and Hamilton proving that they can make it happen at different teams
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What? Rubbish they got on pole and won last year.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/17718458

I dunno if i am confused but nico won from pole last in a MERCEDES, mercedes have the best drs and this track is so wide open. When they utilize it the whole lap they will be faster. The tires will be interesting tomorrow though.

Vettel didn't set a time for a reason, he can put fresh options on while the rest will be running 5 or 6 laps before their tires go away. Button and vettel if they can get good starts wll be right in there for the win. In general button has poor starts though but vettel if he can get into 4 or 5th early on he might win.

You are confusing the first pole for a British driver who is driving a mercedes. Certainly isn't the first pole mercedes have had since 1955.
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naah, its second pole since 55, forgot about last years pole.
 
Alonso is driving like an Ace today, untouchable! Good for Ferrari and the WC.
 
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