F1 2013 thread

That was the most exciting Hungarian GP for many years. Now, Lewis to win the next two races as well, please.

Almost an hour after the chequered flag dropped and I'm still watching analyses and interviews on Sky F1; holy balls, Monochoice's coverage sucks the big one.
 
Damn, almost a month before the next race.

Was a good Hungarian race, although I am no fan of Lewis, he had a good race and a well deserved win for him.
 
satanboy said:
I fsking luv it the GURU said Grosjean was going to win. What a pillock.
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Grosjean could have won, for vettel and grosjean hamilton sealed the victory when they got stuck behind button. All 3 were within 3 seconds of each other before the pitstops and the mercedes is so fast in that first sector he was easy meat for lewis but with vettel and button in front of grosjean it was game over for vettel and grosjean. Penalty never helped him either. He had an epic race and both vettel and grosjean could have won but button held them up where as hamilton in that first sector just blasted button. Pity button was there because it was shaping up to be a 3 way fight for the win. Not to mention blasting past webber(hamilton) like he was a caterham hahah.
 
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killadoob said:
Grosjean could have won, for vettel and grosjean hamilton sealed the victory when they got stuck behind button. All 3 were within 3 seconds of each other before the pitstops and the mercedes is so fast in that first sector he was easy meat for lewis but with vettel and button in front of grosjean it was game over for vettel and grosjean. Penalty never helped him either. He had an epic race and both vettel and grosjean could have won but button held them up where as hamilton in that first sector just blasted button. Pity button was there because it was shaping up to be a 3 way fight for the win. Not to mention blasting past webber(hamilton) like he was a caterham hahah.
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It was a good race, but I honestly don't think Vettel had the pace to keep up with Hamilton and Grosjean. Grosjean was a man on a mission, pity he got penalised. Well done to Hamilton and Mercedes, the better team did win.

Like to end off, did anybody hear/read what Alonso had to say.

Reporter asks: What would you like for your birthday ?
Alonso: Anybody elses car. (Classic :D)
 
craigdoepie said:
It was a good race, but I honestly don't think Vettel had the pace to keep up with Hamilton and Grosjean. Grosjean was a man on a mission, pity he got penalised. Well done to Hamilton and Mercedes, the better team did win.

Like to end off, did anybody hear/read what Alonso had to say.

Reporter asks: What would you like for your birthday ?
Alonso: Anybody elses car. (Classic :D)
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Yup, apparently he is in talks with redbull for next season. Now that would be awesome.
 
Let's hope that doesn't happen. Vettel supporter here.
 
Don't know if Red Bull's luggage hooks are strong enough to bear the weight of both Vettel's and Alonso's handbags...
 
sox63 said:
Watching Vettel get owned by Alonso in the same car would indeed be awesome!
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I somehow doubt it, alonso couldn't own a rookie. You think he will own vettel? That rookie couldn't own button so who knows.

For me though i don't believe alonso would pomp vettel i think that is a naive thing to say considering hamilton pretty much made alonso look second best when they were team mates. People keep saying vettel is only good because of the car but look at mercedes since hamilton arrived. Yes nico is giving him a good run but hamilton is pushing that car beyond it's capability.

That pole lap was something amazing in my opinion. The win i don't think was that amazing, button ruined both vettel and grosjean from winning but having said that hamilton passed button even though we missed it. Vettel damaged his car hitting button and sadly for grojean the drs never helped him because vettel was getting it as well. I can't believe for one second people actually think the car is the reason the vettel is so dominant. Give a driver a good car and he might be ok with it, give a world class driver a car that can win and he will make the car faster than it really is. Vettel has only one thing to prove, whether he is as good as hamilton in the same car.

Alonso and hamilton do the same with cars that are not that good. So does ricardo. Ferrari isn't that good but alonso makes it good. Alonso had by far the best car in f1 when he drove with hamilton, did he pomp hamilton? If mercedes can sort out it's one lap issue it would be the best car in f1 at the moment and it is looking likely redbull and mercedes along with lotus will be very close if merc can sort out their race pace and if grosjean can actually stop making errors he can win races along with kimi. Same with ferrari, they need to qualify better and massa needs to stop hitting or getting involved in accidents.
 
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HapticSimian said:
Don't know if Red Bull's luggage hooks are strong enough to bear the weight of both Vettel's and Alonso's handbags...
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Well it's about time teams stop worrying about but having one good driver, look at mercedes they have two quality drivers and believe me nico is a good driver, as good as hamilton depending on the circuit. Been a bit unlucky this season, poles yes sadly mercedes then had no race pace. Remember he won last year in a dog of a car. Redbull though need to say hey let's put alonso and vettel together, split camps and have two drivers with different teams within redbull.

No team orders unless vettel or alonso are out the race for championship. Hamilton showed us alonso given the best car in f1 will not dominate. Hamilton was unlucky, he should have won two in a row but he had some seriously bad luck that season, got good luck the season before that. Something like that but both seasons alonso couldn't win the championship in an awesome car. claimed hamilton was getting treated differently. Where is this dominant alonso that people claim would dominate if he had the best car. He had the best car for two seasons. Did he dominate?
 
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killadoob said:
Well it's about time teams stop worrying about but having one good driver, look at mercedes they two quality drivers and believe me nico is a good driver, as good as hamilton. Been a bit unlucky this season, poles yes sadly mercedes then had no race pace. Remember he won last year in a dog of a car. Redbull though need to say hey let's put alonso and vettel together, split camps and have two drivers with different teams within redbull. No team order unless vettel or alonso are out the race for championship. Hamilton showed us alonso given the best car in f1 will not dominate.
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It has absolutely zero to do with any of that, and everything to do with the fact that they're both conceited, whiny ponces.

As for Rosberg being Hamilton's equal: I'll reserve judgement. Let's see what the record books say when their time as team mates comes to an end.
 
killadoob said:
Well it's about time teams stop worrying about but having one good driver, look at mercedes they have two quality drivers and believe me nico is a good driver, as good as hamilton depending on the circuit. Been a bit unlucky this season, poles yes sadly mercedes then had no race pace. Remember he won last year in a dog of a car. Redbull though need to say hey let's put alonso and vettel together, split camps and have two drivers with different teams within redbull.

No team orders unless vettel or alonso are out the race for championship. Hamilton showed us alonso given the best car in f1 will not dominate. Hamilton was unlucky, he should have won two in a row but he had some seriously bad luck that season, got good luck the season before that. Something like that but both seasons alonso couldn't win the championship in an awesome car. claimed hamilton was getting treated differently. Where is this dominant alonso that people claim would dominate if he had the best car. He had the best car for two seasons. Did he dominate?
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And do you remember how Rosberg bitched when he had to back off and let Hamilton keep his position in Malaysia? Two Alpha drivers as teammates has never worked in F1 nor will it ever work. Mansell-Prost, Prost-Senna (so bad that Prost opted to retire as a champion rather than renegotiate his contract with Williams after learning that Senna would be his teammate again), Senna blocked Lotus from signing Derrick Warwick (a driver that was at the time rated better than Mansell), it just does not work. At some point the team has to favour one of their drivers. McLaren nearly lost the 1999 world drivers' championship to Eddie Irvine because they allowed Coulthard and Hakkinen to race. Coulthard infamously clipped Hakkinen and spun him at Austria '99, a race Irvine would win, and he also made contact again while passing Hakkinen at Spa '99 en route to a win.
 
HapticSimian said:
It has absolutely zero to do with any of that, and everything to do with the fact that they're both conceited, whiny ponces.

As for Rosberg being Hamilton's equal: I'll reserve judgement. Let's see what the record books say when their time as team mates comes to an end.
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I don't think you can compare them based on a season, you need to factor in DNF, sadly rosburg is suffering from that. Look at the poles and wins, rosburg has done well and has been right there with hamilton. Look at button and hamilton. Hamilton never smashed button and if i recall when hamilton was having his crash into everything season button finished with more points. Who is better though button because he had more points? Hamilton is a country mile better than button.

Granted i understood the egos would clash in your comment. I am just saying people think rosburg is not a good driver but he has never had the car to show his quality, yet i saw him just stick in there, win a race with a dog of a car. Rosburg is no doubt better in my opinion than people give him credit for. I would just love to see two giants of f1 in the same car. Hamilton/vettel. We saw what hamilton did to the two time world champion at mclaren. So whoever said alonso would dominate in the best car must go back in history i think.

I know two good drivers causes tension, did you guys miss the part where i said two camps within redbull. So you have alonso and his team vs vettel and his team. Although ricardo to me looks a rising star might be a good match for vettel.

Personally i believe vettels only rival for the best driver is hamilton. Alonso is good but i don't think he has what it takes to dominate f1 based on history i guess.
 
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thestaggy said:
And do you remember how Rosberg bitched when he had to back off and let Hamilton keep his position in Malaysia? Two Alpha drivers as teammates has never worked in F1 nor will it ever work. Mansell-Prost, Prost-Senna (so bad that Prost opted to retire as a champion rather than renegotiate his contract with Williams after learning that Senna would be his teammate again), Senna blocked Lotus from signing Derrick Warwick (a driver that was at the time rated better than Mansell), it just does not work. At some point the team has to favour one of their drivers. McLaren nearly lost the 1999 world drivers' championship to Eddie Irvine because they allowed Coulthard and Hakkinen to race. Coulthard infamously clipped Hakkinen and spun him at Austria '99, a race Irvine would win, and he also made contact again while passing Hakkinen at Spa '99 en route to a win.
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Agreed but if you want to win a title you need two drivers capable of bringing in good points, ferrari only have one, at the moment lotus have one, redbull have two, mercedes have two if they can sort their tyre issues out. So if the merc carries on looking after it's tyres i would imagine they will come second or beat redbull in the constructors and hamilton could still win the title. You need points from two cars to win titles.
 
Merc suprised many by making their tires last in the HEAT of hungary! But i have to say, Ferrari are in deep trouble. Their last years car was better interms of consistency compared to this years car. Well Alonso was hailing more at the half-way point. And for the past couple of years, they have battled with the remaining tracks on the calender. I recon their fight is over. Red bull on the other have had the second part of the season on lock down for the past 2 years straight. Tracks that they were not strong at because they naturally have more down force thus lil bit more drag they have come up, spa for one. There is a point when seb was trying to overtake the caterham of heikki at the top of the hill and as he pulled out of the slipstream he the green car pulled away. That was just interesting. But last year they came up and won year before. So they my moneys worth for this year... Once again. Mind u i am a ferrari fan. Lotus just always seem to be more talk than action. I am not so upbeat about their performance thus far, but i could be very wrong. Merc.... What a step up from where they were last year this time. Whatever juice they got, it is working. Number two team this year. Hey, mclaren.... Lol. Williams. Man from that 1992 car they are really struggling. Is it a lack of good technical development or has f1 not become competition for them and is now just a job... Sad. Sauber... Nico hulk should be cutting of his nuts right... About.... Now. Big error! Good car last year in hands of perez. Bad car this year. Lack of money. Force india.... Wait... Oh yes them. They jst where they always are. Ok enough said. My current thoughts on f1.


Anyways, where do you guys get your races? I am so used to watching skysports coverage.
 
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