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from BBC:

Lewis Hamilton: Mercedes driver to decide on F1 future after Abu Dhabi inquiry​


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The future of Masi is in doubt as a result of his handling of the race, which came at the end of a season in which there were repeated concerns among teams and drivers over the consistency of application of the rules.

One senior source told BBC Sport that Mercedes had dropped their appeal against the results of the race after agreeing a quid pro quo with the FIA.

This deal was said to be that Masi and FIA head of single-seater technical matters Nikolas Tombazis would no longer be in their positions for the 2022 season.

Mercedes deny that any such deal was reached, and insist that they dropped their appeal after receiving assurances only that the issue would be treated seriously and appropriate action would be taken by the FIA.

Wolff said last month that Mercedes would "hold the FIA to account".

He did not clarify how he intended to do that but said he had "confidence, trust and faith" that the teams and drivers could work with the governing body to create a "more robust decision-making process".

Several senior figures have told BBC Sport that they do not see how Masi can retain his position as race director, but some have cautioned that the FIA is in a difficult position because there is no obvious replacement.
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Edited to add last 2 sentence's that some how failed to get pasted initially.
 
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So their detailed investigation will be an agenda point at a meeting, followed by a quick chat with the drivers? And the results will be released during FP1 at the first race?

Talk about kicking the can down the road and sweeping things under the carpet.

I guess that is the end of the road for Hamilton...
I wouldn't hold it against him if he walks away in disgust and I suspect MB will be re-considering future involvement in a dying sport too.
 
Dave said:
The last bit does sound a little ominous for Masi. "Review and optimise the organisation structure"

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Yes, I Suspect that the first task for the new Race Director "Peter Bayer" will be to perform a witch hunt then burn his two Predecessors prior to the official announcement of his new posting. One way to ensure that he too will tow the FIA party line and take instructions.
 
Masi is the fall guy for Liberty's venture in to the scripted entertainment business.

And the sad thing is, even though he dominated the season, Max will always have an asterisk against this championship (if he gets to keep it) because of this new age of DTS-influenced horsesh*t.
 
thestaggy said:
Masi is the fall guy for Liberty's venture in to the scripted entertainment business.

And the sad thing is, even though he dominated the season, Max will always have an asterisk against this championship (if he gets to keep it) because of this new age of DTS-influenced horsesh*t.
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He will get to keep it.
They can't take it away retrospectively and all widows of opportunity to challenge it closed ages ago.
All they can do now is to look at the rules and make sure such a farce can't happen again.
 
caroper said:
So their detailed investigation will be an agenda point at a meeting, followed by a quick chat with the drivers? And the results will be released during FP1 at the first race?

Talk about kicking the can down the road and sweeping things under the carpet.

I guess that is the end of the road for Hamilton...
I wouldn't hold it against him if he walks away in disgust and I suspect MB will be re-considering future involvement in a dying sport too.
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So much salt
 
Most of the articles I've seen are speculation or from "trusted sources". I trust my barista to make a good coffee so I guess he is a "trusted source".

Until we actually see something official, I'm taking all of this with a bag of salt. Toto already said they're not looking for the removal of Masi, they're looking for a review and amendment to the management and enforcement of rules and such.

Also, many people are taking this based purely on the final race, but they've said many times that this is due to poor calls throughout the season. Obviously the final race was the flashpoint, but there have been criticisms about the enforcement and interpretation of the rules for a long time now.

IF Lewis is calling for Masi to be sacked, that's pretty crappy. But I don't think that's the case. Certainly haven't seen anything official to back that up.
 
caroper said:
Because they agreed not to challenge if the FIA committed to a full investigation and constructive rule changes etc.

They, along with every one else, did not want the championship result to be decided by Lawyers 3 Months after the prize giving.

The record will still show that Max won, even if the title was subsequently handed to Lewis, so that would have been a lose/lose outcome for every one and maybe even a death knell for the sport.

Especially as FIA credibility and F1's agender are already being debated.

It is a pity Desmond Tutu has passed - The FIA and F1 could do with some Truth and Reconciliation right now.

Edit; Wolf is on record as saying he did not want to see Masi Fired. and also this:
www.pitpass.com

Wolff believes Mercedes could have won appeal

Mercedes boss, Toto Wolff believes that his team could have won its appeal had the hearing taken place in a conventional court as opposed to the FIA's International Court of Appeal and the Court of Arbitration for Sport.
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I read somewhere (can't recall if it was on a F1 website or reddit) that there is a rule that states that if a team/organisation proceeds with legal action against the FIA, they are not allowed to take part in any FIA affiliated series until the matter is resolved.
 
Hamster said:
I keep on reading **** like this. Since when did a driver become bigger than the sport. If he is in fact setting ultimatums like "sack him or I don't race" then he must **** off out of the sport.

That's if any of this is true. It is British media after all.
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That was the point of my post - to show that the tabloid headlines are not a reliable source compared to BBC and Sky who stayed away from those story's.
 
My official stance is that until it appears on formula1.com, take any report or article with a large pinch of salt
 
Brundle warns against firing Masi: https://racingnews365.com/brundle-warns-against-firing-masi-be-careful-what-you-wish-for

" ...But renowned commentor Brundle believes that changes are needed, although stopped short of wanting Masi fired from his position.

"If the FIA and F1 want Michael Masi to stay, and if Michael Masi wants to stay, he's clearly only got one life left. So I don't know if that's tenable all around," Brundle told Sky Sports F1.

"Who would you replace him with? Be careful what you wish for, I would say in this.

"What I absolutely know for sure is that changing Michael Masi will not fix the problem. This is way too big a job for one person to handle, in a 23-race season that's only going to grow."

Brundle went on to say that it's critically important the FIA address the situation thoroughly to assure fans of the integrity of the competition, given that it could be argued the decisions in Abu Dhabi were made in the name of entertainment, rather than sport.

Asked if Masi could be made a scapegoat in the fallout from the title decider, Brundle said: "He might be the sacrificial lamb.

"What's really important here for the FIA and for Formula 1 is that this is not swept under the carpet and just left for a few weeks and then overtaken by the new 2022 cars, and the tests, and what have you.

"We need to understand what happened and why it won't happen again. We need to reassure the fans that what they are seeing is for real, genuine, and that they are giving up their free time to watch something that is a genuine competition." ..."
 
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