F1 2022

[jdido87]

Dude, he was alongside LH going into T2, the rule is the driver being overtaken must leave one car's width. LH did not, and drove into MV - clear as day.

Not the first time either LH has not left space - most notably against FA in Spa IIRC.

MV was off the racing line. Do you expect any driver just to yield to someone who is off the racing line? If anything MV should've yield, like many others did during the race. Like he said himself, he knew what the outcome was going to be. His intentions were clear.

 

[The Darkness]

And yet Michael is a 7x champion...

MS was a true champion. Max will never reach those heights. He has no character.

 

[Naks]

MV was off the racing line. Do you expect any driver just to yield to someone who is off the racing line? If anything MV should've yield, like many others did during the race. Like he said himself, he knew what the outcome was going to be. His intentions were clear.

And yet all the former racing drivers commentating agree it was LH's fault for not leaving space.

 

[The Darkness]

And yet all the former racing drivers commentating agree it was LH's fault for not leaving space.

FIA penalised VER for the move, and his team didn’t contest it either. His post race interview was clear in his intentions. He’s going to soon learn that everything in life is a game, and when you are not nice to play with people stop playing too. There’s being competitive and being a total d-bag. Max is a shadow of his father, but I even think his father would have been ashamed of his lack of comradeship.

 

[Naks]

Yes, and the FIA/stewards never make mistakes, do they?

Aren't the butthurt Lulu fanboys still going on about AD 2021?

 

[Harold_Crick]

Dude, he was alongside LH going into T2, the rule is the driver being overtaken must leave one car's width. LH did not, and drove into MV - clear as day.

Not the first time either LH has not left space - most notably against FA in Spa IIRC.

After the numerous incidents between Lewis and Max last year, Carlos Sainz said accidents can be avoided if one of the drivers is willing to yield. Max effectively admitted that he was unwilling to yield knowing what the outcome could be.

Lewis is still racing for something, Max isn't. He really could've just eased out of it. No need to be tripping over people with a record title win already in the bag.

 

[Jean Claude Vaaldamme]

Geez, dude, you know that is BS. They issued a reasonable statement.

Yet the FIA issued a reasonable statement on the budget cap from RB
"However the FIA stated “there is no accusation or evidence that RBR [Red Bull Racing] has sought at any time to act in bad faith, dishonestly or in a fraudulent manner, nor has it willfully concealed any information from the Cost Cap Administration.”
Yet the Merc fans here accuse RB and the FIA of cheating and coverups.

So let me just get this straight. When Hamilton is involved we must accept their findings but not with RB?

 

[upup]

Max, why did you not give Perez that place, please

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

Some folks believe Max has a grudge against Sergio for the latter's Monaco quali crash. Could explain Max telling the team he has given them his ''reasons'' for not playing nice with Sergio.

What happened in Perez's Monaco crash that annoyed Verstappen - The Race

Could Sergio Perez's Monaco crash have led to Max Verstappen snubbing team orders in Brazil? Here's a reminder of what happened back in May

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Even more of a reason why he's a knob. At Monaco Checo was still a title contender. Nobody crashes on purpose to hinder their teammate.

And even if that's his reason, he was happy for Checo to let him through all year but couldn't do it even when he has nothing to lose...

 

[The Darkness]

Yes, and the FIA/stewards never make mistakes, do they?

Aren't the butthurt Lulu fanboys still going on about AD 2021?

RB didn’t contest the decision, therefore they accept it as being correct. You’re witnessing the peak of RB’s racing. Don’t expect the same in the years to come.

 

[quovadis]

Yes, and the FIA/stewards never make mistakes, do they?

Watch Ver's onboard - no way he was going to avoid contact with Ham unless backing out of it.

Aren't the butthurt Lulu fanboys still going on about AD 2021?

Seems you are.

 

[Jean Claude Vaaldamme]

So F1 drivers will almost never admit they were wrong.
LH is known for his whining on the radio and trying to influence race directors. Even the previous race he gave live commentary on Max's track limits.
So after the first/2nd corner incident, LH immediately jumps on the radio and say it was a racing incident. Why? Because he knows that it was his fault
All the commentators knew it was his fault.
For the real F1 fans that followed the sport for years, the penalty given to Max was no surprise. It just confirms what we knew the last decade.

This is the radio message that should hit the headlines not Max and Checo's

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

This is the radio message that should hit the headlines not Max and Checo's

The reason why there's a bigger deal about it is that conflict between opponents is common. Happens all the time and there's debate about it depending on which side you sit.

But what is clear is that Max fscked over his own teammate and team. Yes they still have the same amount of points as a team, but they've never had a 1-2 finish and those points could be the difference...

 

[quovadis]

So F1 drivers will almost never admit they were wrong.
LH is known for his whining on the radio and trying to influence race directors. Even the previous race he gave live commentary on Max's track limits.
So after the first/2nd corner incident, LH immediately jumps on the radio and say it was a racing incident. Why? Because he knows that it was his fault
All the commentators knew it was his fault.
For the real F1 fans that followed the sport for years, the penalty given to Max was no surprise. It just confirms what we knew the last decade.

This is the radio message that should hit the headlines not Max and Checo's

What alternative reality are you living in? The stewards looked at it with the benefit of a vast amount of data and tools at their disposal and determined Max was at fault awarding him a 5s penalty.

 

[Jean Claude Vaaldamme]

Why do we hear constantly from Merc drivers how thankful they are for their team that worked so hard day and night to improve the car?
Yet not once have they thanked the FIA.
All the work they have done did nothing. Only when the FIA changed the rules mid-season and raised the height of the cars did the Merc suddenly improve and RB and Ferrari who had worked the whole year to get their cars perfect suddenly started struggling with tire degradation.
#ThisIsManipulatedMan

 

[Dylan_G]

So after the first/2nd corner incident, LH immediately jumps on the radio and say it was a racing incident. Why? Because he knows that it was his fault
All the commentators knew it was his fault.
For the real F1 fans that followed the sport for years, the penalty given to Max was no surprise. It just confirms what we knew the last decade.

I thought he said "That was no racing incident"

Seems F1 transcriber agrees:

 

[Jean Claude Vaaldamme]

What alternative reality are you living in? The stewards looked at it with the benefit of a vast amount of data and tools at their disposal and determined Max was at fault awarding him a 5s penalty.

What alternative reality do you live is. The Merc fans have told us for a year that the FIA cheats and manipulate races? Is it now suddenly not the case when your driver is involved?

 

[Sinbad]

What alternative reality are you living in? The stewards looked at it with the benefit of a vast amount of data and tools at their disposal and determined Max was at fault awarding him a 5s penalty.

I think the issue is their rule that says that if you are even slightly behind you need to yield the corner. That would be why they pinged max, at the point of impact Hamilton was 30cm ahead.
Unreasonable rule Imho. Especially given that max was ahead at the exit of turn 1

 

[quovadis]

I think the issue is their rule that says that if you are even slightly behind you need to yield the corner. That would be why they pinged max, at the point of impact Hamilton was 30cm ahead.
Unreasonable rule Imho. Especially given that max was ahead at the exit of turn 1

Rules are rules. Didn't Ocon do the exact same thing to Verstappen a few years back and Verstappen got into it with Ocon?

 

[Sinbad]

Rules are rules. Didn't Ocon do the exact same thing to Verstappen a few years back and Verstappen got into it with Ocon?

I agree. Just sometimes the rules aren't always well thought through or catering for all situations. I think we can agree that the FIA are not very good at that.

They should go back to the fundamental rule being that you always leave a car width. Always.
If max was so badly off the racing line his corner would have been compromised and Lewis would have come out ahead anyway.