F1 2023

Which team will take constructors in 2023?


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Says the guy who brought it up. LMAO.
Sure bud. Here's the same old tired narrative, being raised by me apparently.
Just two seasons back Max couldn't win his first WC without the FIAs help. Did he just learn to drive?
He was ahead in that championship all season, without any help from the FIA. The FIA looked away all season to bring your guy back into it. How do you not bring Hamilton into the discussion with a statement like this? Fact is this 2021 nonsense wouldn't have come up otherwise, it should just be banned from this thread by now...
 
Sure bud. Here's the same old tired narrative, being raised by me apparently.
Not an old tired narrative, it's a valid point related to the discussion. If you'd bothered to follow:
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He was ahead in that championship all season, without any help from the FIA. The FIA looked away all season to bring your guy back into it. How do you not bring Hamilton into the discussion with a statement like this? Fact is this 2021 nonsense wouldn't have come up otherwise, it should just be banned from this thread by now...
Sure it's convenient to ignore under the circumstances, but if you can't stand the heat...
 
Not an old tired narrative, it's a valid point related to the discussion. If you'd bothered to follow:
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Sure it's convenient to ignore under the circumstances, but if you can't stand the heat...
You could have made your point without bringing up your agenda.

Everyone knows the car is good. But it only became next level after the new technical specifications in 2022 - again nothing to do with 2021. And probably more to do with everyone else falling behind and battling porpoising.

That doesn't mean that it doesn't still need a skilled driver. You just need to look at the last race where the oke took a grid penalty and finished 20 seconds ahead of his teammate. Perez may not have that x-factor, but the oke is no slouch. If it really was all car then he would be locking up the front row and getting consistent podiums like Bottas used to...
 
You could have made your point without bringing up your agenda.
What is a point without an agenda?
Everyone knows the car is good. But it only became next level after the new technical specifications in 2022 - again nothing to do with 2021. And probably more to do with everyone else falling behind and battling porpoising.
It only won every championship in 2022. That was my point to start with, not?
That doesn't mean that it doesn't still need a skilled driver.
What is it with you guys thinking my point was Max has no skillz? Talk about an agenda.
 
Who can still win the Championship after the Belgian GP?
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Max WDC/RBR WCC after the Belgian GP (disclaimer: I haven't checked the figures):
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Who can still win the Championship after the Belgian GP?
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That's a bit of a silly chart. The only way Oscar Piastri can win is if everyone with a better car and skills that are above him somehow can't race anymore.
 
That's a bit of a silly chart. The only way Oscar Piastri can win is if everyone with a better car and skills that are above him somehow can't race anymore.
Still theoretically possible, even though highly unlikely.

The driver's and constructor's is already a foregone conclusion, we all know who's taking it. It's now just about ticking off theoretical challengers one by one...
 
That's a bit of a silly chart. The only way Oscar Piastri can win is if everyone with a better car and skills that are above him somehow can't race anymore.

Not only that, you can give stroll that RB car and kick every other driver in the nuts with a steel tipped safety shoe at the beginning of every race as well as with every pit stop, and he'll still not be able to win.
 
What is your contention exactly? Perez left him room. Hamilton took a fairly standard inside line but washed out a little due to track conditions and bumped Perez. Fairly standard racing incident. Hamilton didn't go in way hot in to the corner or use a weird line or open the steering or anything else. The front simply washed out in the wet.

I'm all for fair penalties and such, but that was a racing incident.

Piastri cannonballing turn 1 got no penalty. The dude who torpedoed Formula E got no penalty. It's just a little unbalanced it seems.
If you look at the on board after initial contact he then turned the steering hard left into the Redbull, that's probably why he got the penalty.
 
Still theoretically possible, even though highly unlikely.

The driver's and constructor's is already a foregone conclusion, we all know who's taking it. It's now just about ticking off theoretical challengers one by one...
I would still say no. Let's say the top 5 on that list are suddenly out of the season do you really think they will continue?

They could have named the chart Max points achievable per driver and it would have made a lot more sense.
 
I would still say no. Let's say the top 5 on that list are suddenly out of the season do you really think they will continue?

They could have named the chart Max points achievable per driver and it would have made a lot more sense.
Rather "Max points available per driver" as they are probably not achievable.
 
That's a bit of a silly chart. The only way Oscar Piastri can win is if everyone with a better car and skills that are above him somehow can't race anymore.
It's a statistical chart. Just numbers. Possibility <> probability.
 
Rather "Max points available per driver" as they are probably not achievable.
That RB so fast they're going to split Max points among the other drivers for the rest of the season?
I vote Max hands his points out for every race win to a driver of his choice for the rest of the year. Kind of like a philanthropic deal.
 
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