F1 2023

[Dave]

Still theoretically possible, even though highly unlikely.

Are we considering the 10 drivers above him are all abducted by aliens?

 

[caroper]

Hayi wena!

They should be Ferrari Sponsors.
Ferrari are definitely in need of a partner that can prevent a Cock-Up on the Pit Wall

 

[dotdan]

Any links to that info?

Yeah just some internet rumors for now. Put it in the skeptical bag for now.

 

[deesef]

I'm watching the woman's soccer - Italy vs South Africa.

It looks like Italy has hired the Ferrari strategy team to develop their game plan...

 

[Harold_Crick]

Out of interest, has anyone ever been that far ahead before in F1 in terms of points?

Schumacher won the 2002 championship with 6 races to go, which remains the record for the fastest championship victory.

He had 96 points out of a maximum of 110 points at the time. Montoya was second on 34 points. In terms of percentage, he had scored 33.5% of all available points. Currently Max has scored 24% of all available points.

It was because of the 2002 season that they changed the points system at the time, reducing the points margin the winner had over the runner-up to avoid someone running away with it so quickly.

 

[lkpat]

Schumacher won the 2002 championship with 6 races to go, which remains the record for the fastest championship victory.

He had 96 points out of a maximum of 110 points at the time. Montoya was second on 34 points. In terms of percentage, he had scored 33.5% of all available points. Currently Max has scored 24% of all available points.

It was because of the 2002 season that they changed the points system at the time, reducing the points margin the winner had over the runner-up to avoid someone running away with it so quickly.

Now there's an interesting exercise....
What would the results look like on the old scoring system? Anyone have the time?
Old points scoring:


Current points:

 

[lkpat]

Here you go... fascinating. The Yellow ones are the positions that would be affected by the points difference with Piastri being one point above Norris.



Also, only positions 2-4 would have a statistical chance of winning other than Max. Second place is still up for grabs this year, not so much on the old points system.

 

[Agent_Smith]

Here you go... fascinating. The Yellow ones are the positions that would be affected by the points difference:

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Also, only positions 2-4 would have a statistical chance of winning other than Max.

Think you missed 6 points for Checo in Belgium there. But an interesting read!

 

[lkpat]

Think you missed 6 points for Checo in Belgium there. But an interesting read!

Good spot, updated

 

[Harold_Crick]

Here you go... fascinating. The Yellow ones are the positions that would be affected by the points difference:

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Also, only positions 2-4 would have a statistical chance of winning other than Max.

If you do it over the same period (11 races), Max would have 102 pts after 11 races vs Michael's 96.

However, Perez in second would have 47 pts vs Montoya on 34, meaning the championship would still mathematically be alive as Checo would ''only'' have a 55-point deficit with 6 rounds to go, vs the unassailable 62-point lead Michael had over Montoya at the same point.

Michael's lead is still bigger, and he wins the championship sooner. Max has been more dominant though, securing a greater percentage of available points.

 

[NR7]

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So if Max wins at Zandvoort he equals Vettels win streak from 2013, crazy.

 

[Mzezman]

So if Max wins at Zandvoort he equals Vettels win streak from 2013, crazy.

you mean WHEN

 

[lkpat]

So if Max wins at Zandvoort he equals Vettels win streak from 2013, crazy.

You mean Adrian Newey equals his record!
Vettel - yet another example of why raw driver talent isn't enough in this sport.

 

[OhYeah84]

Here you go... fascinating. The Yellow ones are the positions that would be affected by the points difference with Piastri being one point above Norris.

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Also, only positions 2-4 would have a statistical chance of winning other than Max. Second place is still up for grabs this year, not so much on the old points system.

Your points for Alonso are wrong. He got 2nd in Monaco.

 

[Agent_Smith]

2023 Driver salaries (excl bonuses, endorsements etc)

Max Verstappen Red Bull $55 million

Lewis Hamilton Mercedes $35 million

Charles Leclerc Ferrari $24 million

Lando Norris McLaren $20 million

Carlos Sainz Ferrari $12 million

Sergio Perez Red Bull $10 million

Valtteri Bottas Alfa Romeo $10 million

George Russell Mercedes $8 million

Esteban Ocon Alpine $6 million

Fernando Alonso Aston Martin $5 million

Pierre Gasly Alpine $5 million

Kevin Magnussen Haas $5 million

Alex Albon Williams $3 million

Zhou Guanyu Alfa Romeo $2 million

Lance Stroll Aston Martin $2 million

Nico Hulkenberg Haas $2 million

Oscar Piastri McLaren $2 million

Nyck de Vries AlphaTauri $2 million

Yuki Tsunoda AlphaTauri $1 million

Logan Sargeant Williams $1 million

 

[Maurice Kitching]

 

[lkpat]

Your points for Alonso are wrong. He got 2nd in Monaco.

I see a couple wrong. Will fix tomorrow.

 

[dotdan]

2023 Driver salaries (excl bonuses, endorsements etc)

Lol big W for Bottas. Loses his seat at Merc and still gets paid more than his replacement.

 

[lkpat]

Lol big W for Bottas. Loses his seat at Merc and still gets paid more than his replacement.

Bottas is around 7 years Russel"s senior in the sport. Why should Russel earn more?
Bottas lost around 30% of his earnings when he moved. Not a big W in my books.

 

[dotdan]

Bottas is around 7 years Russel"s senior in the sport. Why should Russel earn more?
Bottas lost around 30% of his earnings when he moved. Not a big W in my books.

Really? What was he earning at Merc before?