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[lkpat]

As with any sport there are always going to be risks, the key is to minimize them, driving into a wall of spray not knowing what is on the other side is not what any driver should have to be doing.

By that token, street races should be banned.
I'd be happy to agree to that.

 

[Obieone]

You should not be watching motor racing.

Or big wave surfing, free diving, solo climbing, mountain biking...

Sorry to disappoint you but that's not going to happen.

 

[Shi]

you guys referring to this right?

The speed MS closed in with, he should have known there was a slow silver car there....Not quite sure what he expected

Issue here is that Coulthard slowed, but stayed on the racing line. How was MS suppose to know that he was doing that, at that point in time.

 

[Maurice Kitching]

Sorry to disappoint you but that's not going to happen.

No skin off my back, mate. Look after your mental health and all that.

 

[OhYeah84]

So no idea how flexing front wings are implemented in production vehicles then....

Sorry, but WTF are you on about? Did I create the impression or state I was a mechanical engineer or had automotive design experience?
I simply said that technology from F1 made its way into production cars and you've come up with a bunch of silly statements. Suggest you either stick to the topic or sit down and put your finger on your mouth.

 

[OhYeah84]

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Yes, true...maybe they can find a way around that for next year as it's really cool.

 

[OhYeah84]

It always annoys me when one-off liveries are so good and regular are bland.

I agree. The Italian flag really suits the car. Ferrari's is a bit "meh" but their suits look good.

 

[Harold_Crick]

Wet means mclaren stand a chance. But also screws albon again....

which do we want more?

That was the Williams strategists. Let's hope they caught a wake up after last weekend.

 

[Harold_Crick]

you guys referring to this right?

The speed MS closed in with, he should have known there was a slow silver car there....Not quite sure what he expected

You don't expect a slow car on the racing line. Coulthard accepted blame for that incident a few years later. He lifted on the racing line to let Michael past, which is stupid enough in the dry, but beyond braindead in extreme wet conditions.

"The reality is that I lifted to let him pass me, but I lifted in heavy spray on the racing line. You should never do that. I would never do that now. In 1998, I didn't have the experience and the knowledge, and I had never had someone run into the back of me. And because someone pushes you, you react. So you act as though 'I didn't do that,'" he said.

"The minute I knew he was there, and I was told by the team that he was and was trying to allow him to pass me, I should have made a smarter decision."

 

[lkpat]

Sorry, but WTF are you on about? Did I create the impression or state I was a mechanical engineer or had automotive design experience?
I simply said that technology from F1 made its way into production cars and you've come up with a bunch of silly statements. Suggest you either stick to the topic or sit down and put your finger on your mouth.

Curb your emotion aunty. You quoted an article about flexing wings and whined about the tech being used in production vehicle design.
Your words, not mine... then you go on about not being an engineer. To help jog your memory, blue is your post, red is the post you quoted.
And just for clarity, I'm all for innovation in the sport irrespective of whether these things make it to production vehicles or not, but flexing wings aren't likely to be a production vehicle component.

 

[UrBaN963]

Which of the teams do you think are "abusing" these aero limits and will need to change?

I hope we get clarity on the effects, I'm curious whether it's a hundredth or a tenth that's being gained.

 

[JoE]

Don't see what that has to with driver safety, but for the record I'm with Max, much prefer an old school race weekend without the sprint race.

Not related at all. Just wanted to know where you stood with that. I also prefer old school racing without the halo cockpit and red flag rain days.

I think the sprints last year were better than this year especially with the broken qualy format for the race on friday and another on saturday for the sprint breaking the link to the main gp.

If I could I'd say the weekend should be in this format:

• No Fridays - leave that to make it easier for teams to set up the garages and 1 extra day for logistics so better for mental health
• Extended testing sessions on Saturday to get the car set up and ready - can also have more running time this way to better understand cars and close gaps
• Qualy on Sunday half an hour before the race start - can either sprint before GP or main GP but each flows into the other

 

[dotdan]

Which of the teams do you think are "abusing" these aero limits and will need to change?

I hope we get clarity on the effects, I'm curious whether it's a hundredth or a tenth that's being gained.

Are you referring to this front and rear wing movement thing?

 

[UrBaN963]

Are you referring to this front and rear wing movement thing?

Yea, the recent thing the FIA put out regarding flexing, movement etc.

 

[Maurice Kitching]

Not related at all. Just wanted to know where you stood with that. I also prefer old school racing without the halo cockpit and red flag rain days.

I think the sprints last year were better than this year especially with the broken qualy format for the race on friday and another on saturday for the sprint breaking the link to the main gp.

If I could I'd say the weekend should be in this format:

• No Fridays - leave that to make it easier for teams to set up the garages and 1 extra day for logistics so better for mental health
• Extended testing sessions on Saturday to get the car set up and ready - can also have more running time this way to better understand cars and close gaps
• Qualy on Sunday half an hour before the race start - can either sprint before GP or main GP but each flows into the other

You know what they say about sarcasm, hey?

 

[dotdan]

Yea, the recent thing the FIA put out regarding flexing, movement etc.

From what I have seen on some youtube clips, it seems the Merc has the most movement during a race but from what my uninformed eyes can pick up it seems most cars have movement?

 

[OhYeah84]

Curb your emotion aunty. You quoted an article about flexing wings and whined about the tech being used in production vehicle design.
Your words, not mine... then you go on about not being an engineer. To help jog your memory, blue is your post, red is the post you quoted.
And just for clarity, I'm all for innovation in the sport irrespective of whether these things make it to production vehicles or not, but flexing wings aren't likely to be a production vehicle component.

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Sorry, but are you outright stupid?

This is what I said: That sort of technology eventually makes its way into production cars so it makes sense in a way to have the pinnacle of motorsport design it.
By this I meant that what F1 designs makes its way into production cars. And you need to look at the Mercedes AMG ONE, Aston Martin Valkyrie etc. to see how F1 tech has been utilised in road cars. How is that whining? I used a flex wing as an example as it had been mentioned, but hell buddy, if that's what you're desperate to cling too, then have at it.

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As for your last statement, not sure how you got to that, but OK. Hot damn...get your facts straight please BEFORE attempting to hop on your mini horse and call me out.

 

[UrBaN963]

From what I have seen on some youtube clips, it seems the Merc has the most movement during a race but from what my uninformed eyes can pick up it seems most cars have movement?

From the onboards I've seen, all the front wings seem to flex somewhat. I know there's a range of permitted movement for integral reasons, but I'm not sure what the details are.

From the directive, it seems the issue isn't as much with outright rigidity as it is with mounts and such moving under certain conditions. Quite an interesting one from an engineering perspective.

 

[dotdan]

From the onboards I've seen, all the front wings seem to flex somewhat. I know there's a range of permitted movement for integral reasons, but I'm not sure what the details are.

From the directive, it seems the issue isn't as much with outright rigidity as it is with mounts and such moving under certain conditions. Quite an interesting one from an engineering perspective.

Hell I remember earlier in the year when the Alpine back wing was bouncing around like crazy looking like it was going to fall off. I mean, those things are and probably should be as light as possible. Surely to minimize movement they would have to be heavier?

 

[Maurice Kitching]

Sorry, but are you outright stupid?

This is what I said: That sort of technology eventually makes its way into production cars so it makes sense in a way to have the pinnacle of motorsport design it.
By this I meant that what F1 designs makes its way into production cars. And you need to look at the Mercedes AMG ONE, Aston Martin Valkyrie etc. to see how F1 tech has been utilised in road cars. How is that whining? I used a flex wing as an example as it had been mentioned, but hell buddy, if that's what you're desperate to cling too, then have at it.

To help you, because reading clearly isn't anything you do (or if you try it isn't done particularly well!), here is the shortcut:

F1 2023

mybroadband.co.za

As for your last statement, not sure how you got to that, but OK. Hot damn...get your facts straight please BEFORE attempting to hop on your mini horse and call me out.

There'd be fewer misunderstanding here if people were a touch more charitable with their readings.

But then, where would the fun in that be?