F1 2024

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R4ziel said:
I completely agree, I hate these tight and technical street circuits they keep building, Build a proper Race Track like Monza, Suzuka,Spa combined and let them race properly
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From what I have been reading, a modern permanent circuit built to meet F1s demands is almost guaranteed to operate at a loss. No other series on earth requires the facilities F1 does, so you will pour hundreds of millions into a track and then only use its full potential once a year. And you cannot let the levels drop between F1 races, so throughout the year you will be pumping money into keeping things in tip-top shape while relying on a handful of smaller events that won't pull in F1 revenue.

The cost of hosting an F1 race doesn't help either.

Even the established greats like Monza, Spa and Silverstone battle financially, and the latter two have undergone significant modernisation programs to compete with the oil money states. The last 3 races at Spa have been losses and Spa has one of the most expensive tickets on the calendar.

These hybrid/part-time circuits need one big investment per year which the F1 race pays for and then you pack it up and minimal investment is required.

I despise the, but that is the route the sport has taken itself.
 
R4ziel said:
Yep, would be good to see something new and refreshing rather than just rehashing the same kind of segments. Would be cool if F1 holds a competition for designing the track and then selecting one of those to be built, that would shake things up a bit I think
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I always thought this was awesome... using country borders...

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They've built the worlds largest ramp. Get it wrong and you've got a 50 story drop. What could go wrong?
 
Harold_Crick said:
From what I have been reading, a modern permanent circuit built to meet F1s demands is almost guaranteed to operate at a loss. No other series on earth requires the facilities F1 does, so you will pour hundreds of millions into a track and then only use its full potential once a year. And you cannot let the levels drop between F1 races, so throughout the year you will be pumping money into keeping things in tip-top shape while relying on a handful of smaller events that won't pull in F1 revenue.

The cost of hosting an F1 race doesn't help either.

Even the established greats like Monza, Spa and Silverstone battle financially, and the latter two have undergone significant modernisation programs to compete with the oil money states. The last 3 races at Spa have been losses and Spa has one of the most expensive tickets on the calendar.

These hybrid/part-time circuits need one big investment per year which the F1 race pays for and then you pack it up and minimal investment is required.

I despise the, but that is the route the sport has taken itself.
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This is why I was happy SA did not get the race. Silverstone barely breaks even so SA was almost certain to run at a major loss, not to mention, tickets would have been unaffordable for the vast majority of people.

They should look at Morocco if they want an African GP.
 
JuliusSeizure said:
This is why I was happy SA did not get the race. Silverstone barely breaks even so SA was almost certain to run at a major loss, not to mention, tickets would have been unaffordable for the vast majority of people.

They should look at Morocco if they want an African GP.
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Kyalami is a great example of how an F1-spec track could easily be a money pit.

Our local racing scene is terrible, nowhere near the levels it was at between the 70s-90s, so you'd spend a few hundred million rand on bringing the track up to F1 standard, host one Grand Prix, and then for the rest of the year you will barely pull a crowd for tiny local events. The facility would bleed money.

Hockenheim bled money, even after it was rebuilt in order to be more appealing to fans and TV coverage.
 
just to muddy the waters even further...

*this is from the DailyMail, so consume with a truckload of salt*

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Naks said:
just to muddy the waters even further...

*this is from the DailyMail, so consume with a truckload of salt*

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So the new twist is that Horner is a Hero, riding in to save the lost wench from the Wife Beating Bully that was stalking her ........:unsure: :)

I wish they would bring back F1 it was much better than this Soap Opera the FoM are running.
 
caroper said:
So the new twist is that Horner is a Hero, riding in to save the lost wench from the Wife Beating Bully that was stalking her ........:unsure: :)

I wish they would bring back F1 it was much better than this Soap Opera the FoM are running.
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Yeah, this whole f up is starting to become boring, its no ones business who Horny spice explodes for. . I hope this weekends race is more exciting than the off track antics.
 
quovadis said:
All that money and they’ll create this hybrid rubbish. If you’re gonna build something do be a spectacle pick the best tracks which no longer meet requirements and/or aren’t on the calendar and/or no longer usable and make one long circuit combining two or three. It’s novel and way more interesting imho as part of a full racing concept and surround that with a city or whatever.
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But it's not an Arab money spin.
 
R4ziel said:
Yep, would be good to see something new and refreshing rather than just rehashing the same kind of segments. Would be cool if F1 holds a competition for designing the track and then selecting one of those to be built, that would shake things up a bit I think
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We need a Nordschleife length track that combines all the classics... where they only do 10 laps lol.
Could never get too used to that haha.
 
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