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Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
My head says Max will run away with it and give them all a finger on his victory lap.
My heart says I hope there is a safety car that help Lando get another win so the Brits can respect the sport.
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Well based on Austria's pace, the RB should be good and I think if they can sort out some of the niggles they could be in good form.
 
One must feel sorry for Checo.
He is the only driver that has a super human as a teammate. Now people say he is bad because other teams drivers finish closer to each other.
 
Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
One must feel sorry for Checo.
He is the only driver that has a super human as a teammate. Now people say he is bad because other teams drivers finish closer to each other.
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People say he is bad because he is bad. Or at least, he is driving badly currently.

Also, Max isn't superhuman. Superhumans don't crash at their home race and finish 5th. He's just really good.
 
Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
One must feel sorry for Checo.
He is the only driver that has a super human as a teammate. Now people say he is bad because other teams drivers finish closer to each other.
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That car is no where underneath him, watch as he enters the corners, he has to gear down way earlier to get the nose to turn in and is then slow on exit, when he gets on the throttle he is battling with wheel spin, it looks like to conquer the pointiness of the car they've changed the setup so much that the thing is understeering off the track. The baffling part is why him and his engineer can't figure out how to overcome this.
 
Obieone said:
That car is no where underneath him, watch as he enters the corners, he has to gear down way earlier to get the nose to turn in and is then slow on exit, when he gets on the throttle he is battling with wheel spin, it looks like to conquer the pointiness of the car they've changed the setup so much that the thing is understeering off the track. The baffling part is why him and his engineer can't figure out how to overcome this.
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Nothing baffling about that.
 
Obieone said:
That car is no where underneath him, watch as he enters the corners, he has to gear down way earlier to get the nose to turn in and is then slow on exit, when he gets on the throttle he is battling with wheel spin, it looks like to conquer the pointiness of the car they've changed the setup so much that the thing is understeering off the track. The baffling part is why him and his engineer can't figure out how to overcome this.
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If you listen to his interview over the weekend he criticizes the car being too "front end". Mate, this is how the car is designed, if he still cant manage to get the hang of it, you never will.

I really do think he is there purely for the sponsorship money he is bringing in.
 
dotdan said:
If you listen to his interview over the weekend he criticizes the car being too "front end". Mate, this is how the car is designed, if he still cant manage to get the hang of it, you never will.

I really do think he is there purely for the sponsorship money he is bringing in.
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He is (was) a good driver though and would have been there on merit, however based on current performance I have to agree.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
Yeah, going right and then left again is a straight line that's not parallel to the track...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1807442876651000261
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I'm sorry but Lando had tons of space there, there was no ways he was ever taking Max around the outside anyway, Max drifts across to the left to get into the best possible line to take the corner, the onboard also shows Lando turning into max when along side him, it could have been avoided, Verstappen's earlier movement under braking should have gotten him a penalty though, that was straight up dodgy.
 
you are entitled to your opinion. but you are contradicting yourself.
in that video you see max moving right to take the inside line and then AFTER lando goes to the outside he moves to the left. its the double move under braking that is the issue here that is what caused the colision.

Lando went for a space that was there, Max closed that gap later, it is very clear from that angle, and from the onboard on Max's point of view he ALTERED his line that alone is worth the 10s penalty. the other examples on earlier laps are similar and still should be penalized as well.
 
Obieone said:
That car is no where underneath him, watch as he enters the corners, he has to gear down way earlier to get the nose to turn in and is then slow on exit, when he gets on the throttle he is battling with wheel spin, it looks like to conquer the pointiness of the car they've changed the setup so much that the thing is understeering off the track. The baffling part is why him and his engineer can't figure out how to overcome this.
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Well, if a driver and his engineer can't setup a car to be 100% competitive on any track they should be kicked to the curb. I can never understand when drivers complain about the car setup wasn't right for them, thus they sucked. It really shouldn't (isn't) be that difficult to setup your car to be competitive on any track, with all the data they accumulate each year from the same tracks, they should have good base setups, and then the driver should know where to make changes to improve, irrespective of the actual car design, then that's where the setup comes in to make it suit the driver.

Of course the setup will have compromises, but make it suit you as best possible.

If after a few laps you can't figure out where you will need to make changes...rather join a different sport, like curling.

At the moment Perez sucks balls, since last year in fact.
 
MaxQz said:
Well, if a driver and his engineer can't setup a car to be 100% competitive on any track they should be kicked to the curb. I can never understand when drivers complain about the car setup wasn't right for them, thus they sucked. It really shouldn't (isn't) be that difficult to setup your car to be competitive on any track, with all the data they accumulate each year from the same tracks, they should have good base setups, and then the driver should know where to make changes to improve, irrespective of the actual car design, then that's where the setup comes in to make it suit the driver.

Of course the setup will have compromises, but make it suit you as best possible.

If after a few laps you can't figure out where you will need to make changes...rather join a different sport, like curling.

At the moment Perez sucks balls, since last year in fact.
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Yip this is what I find baffling.
 
Baxteen said:
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Quali gap between team mates until Canada
but we have had 2 more races that have increased the gap for Max v Perez, decreased the gap for Albon V Sargeant and the Bottas Zhou gap has stayed about the same.
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BTW, I dont recall where I saw it (was recent), but the race pace gap between Bottas and Zhou is very small. Their race head to head for 2023 is also close (12-9 I think). Bottas is head and shoulders better in qualy.
 
As said, drivers have always moved while braking.
My prediction is after this fiasco we going see crybabies on the radio every race as soon as they come behind another driver, claiming moving under braking. We going to get penalties all over the place and the racing will be ruined.
 
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