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PCWARITM said:
Of course it was to Piastri’s advantage to pit first and have fresh boots first.
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Explain how he would have benefited from pitting one lap earlier and being 6s behind?

Or are you just parroting twitter?
 
daveza said:
Not sure what's wrong with the street circuit that was an option.
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If they wanna build an F1-capable track they should. Could alternate each other year. Good for tourism. Doubt that they'll be able to raise what's necessary to build it though...
 
I just watched the Radio Recap on F1TV. First time I've noticed it, and it was actually pretty cool. Anyway, it seems the pit wall initiated the McLaren switcheroo. It doesn't seem like Lando asked for it.
 
PCWARITM said:
Of course it was to Piastri’s advantage to pit first and have fresh boots first.
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No, he wanted the opposite tyres from Lando to try pass him on track. Pitting first took that option away, and that's probably why Lando didn't want to pit first himself.
 
Lando did not want to pit first because of the advantage you would get from a safety car. So first both Mclarens stayed out as long as possible and then when only they were left Lando did not want to go first in case of safety car and Piastri gets advantage.
So it was Lando's call and having a slow stop was his problem, not Piastri.
 
Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
Lando did not want to pit first because of the advantage you would get from a safety car. So first both Mclarens stayed out as long as possible and then when only they were left Lando did not want to go first in case of safety car and Piastri gets advantage.
So it was Lando's call and having a slow stop was his problem, not Piastri.
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how dare you speak logic :

the undercut Lando is talking about is about Piastri undercutting him, it has nothing to do with LeClerc who was not even in play... now if they did both stops normally and Piastri ended ahead (undercut) then fine swop them around as per their McLaren rules (stupid unless in the lead if you ask me) BUT this was a pitstop error <-- which Piastri clearly mentioned. It seems the team decided not to follow their own rules to favour Lando which is bull. I bet 100% this has been set in stone now going forward.

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Team: Lando we will box this lap after the soft tire

Lando: do you want to pit the other car first?

Team: yep we’ll do that. We’ll swap it around so stay out

Lando: well only if he doesn’t undercut otherwise I’ll pit first

Team: There will be no undercut

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Wrath of Khan MD said:
how dare you speak logic :

the undercut Lando is talking about is about Piastri undercutting him, it has nothing to do with LeClerc who was not even in play... now if they did both stops normally and Piastri ended ahead (undercut) then fine swop them around as per their McLaren rules (stupid unless in the lead if you ask me) BUT this was a pitstop error <-- which Piastri clearly mentioned. It seems the team decided not to follow their own rules to favour Lando which is bull. I bet 100% this has been set in stone now going forward.

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Team: Lando we will box this lap after the soft tire

Lando: do you want to pit the other car first?

Team: yep we’ll do that. We’ll swap it around so stay out

Lando: well only if he doesn’t undercut otherwise I’ll pit first

Team: There will be no undercut

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Well Lando's dad did pay Mclaren millions for that seat, so they probably have to favour him.
Just another Stroll
 
Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
Well Lando's dad did pay Mclaren millions for that seat, so they probably have to favour him.
Just another Stroll
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As far as I'm aware Lando's dad did not pay for his F1 seat. And I don't think any true F1 fan believes that a pay driver with talent is a problem anyway.

The Mclaren team order switch at Monza is simply a conditional pit option gone wrong - it was not pretty as most can discern the difference between an undercut due to pace advantage and an undercut due to a bad pitstop. However, it's still a team argument that the option given was subject to a condition of not losing position. Pretty sure Lando knows it's not right but he'll never admit it.

Move on to Azerbaijan.
 
Curious to know if Oscar would have been so compliant had he been behind in the championship and asked to move over. Also, I think he missed an opportunity that a racer like Hamilton, Senna or Schumacher would have taken; namely, to give the place back down the back straight just before the DRS detection zone at the Parabolica. Then stuck to him like glue through the corner, pop the DRS and try take him straight back into turn 1.
 
quovadis said:
As far as I'm aware Lando's dad did not pay for his F1 seat. And I don't think any true F1 fan believes that a pay driver with talent is a problem anyway.

The Mclaren team order switch at Monza is simply a conditional pit option gone wrong - it was not pretty as most can discern the difference between an undercut due to pace advantage and an undercut due to a bad pitstop. However, it's still a team argument that the option given was subject to a condition of not losing position. Pretty sure Lando knows it's not right but he'll never admit it.

Move on to Azerbaijan.
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We have established many times that you are not as far aware of most things in F1, so please, you can move on.
 
Agent_Smith said:
Curious to know if Oscar would have been so compliant had he been behind in the championship and asked to move over. Also, I think he missed an opportunity that a racer like Hamilton, Senna or Schumacher would have taken; namely, to give the place back down the back straight just before the DRS detection zone at the Parabolica. Then stuck to him like glue through the corner, pop the DRS and try take him straight back into turn 1.
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As much as they say it has nothing to do with last year, imho it would be reasonable to argue it's why Piastri complied. In saying that, if it was a matter of points or no points or a championship on the line he'd probably have driven that car to the finish line. I do think he could've done more to take the position back but perhaps he had reconciled that 3rd was better than risking an incident and his current championship lead.
 
quovadis said:
As far as I'm aware Lando's dad did not pay for his F1 seat. And I don't think any true F1 fan believes that a pay driver with talent is a problem anyway.

The Mclaren team order switch at Monza is simply a conditional pit option gone wrong - it was not pretty as most can discern the difference between an undercut due to pace advantage and an undercut due to a bad pitstop. However, it's still a team argument that the option given was subject to a condition of not losing position. Pretty sure Lando knows it's not right but he'll never admit it.

Move on to Azerbaijan.
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He didn't. That poster often makes ill-informed statements often tinged with their own bias.

It is true that Norris' father is wealthy and funded his junior career, but that is practically every driver that progresses to F1. Almost all of them come from wealth, benefit from nepotism (check how many sons of former drivers are in the FIA ladder), join an academy or have significant support from sponsors. Racing is expensive and you won't get far without money coming from somewhere or leveraging a racing name.
 
i think that if lando wins the championship, he'd be the "least respected" champion, excluding any british fans obviously


as Bernie says - the team “prefers a World Champion named Lando Norris”
 
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