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its a plesant suprise.
honestly feels like that williams will be competing for Q1 more often than not.

if the gaps beteen the top 4 are as small as they were last year, and suddenly Williams is up there as well, we could have some strange grids this season.

person who has fastest time in FP1,2 and 3 starting in 16th becasuse of traffic.
Williams starting on pole because track evolution.
Max/Charles/Lando/Oscar/George/Kimi/Lewis not making top 10 because he got a single corner wrong

its going to be an epic year
 
Agent_Smith said:
For context, Max's Q3 time last year was a 1:29.179. The best time so far is already only half a second off. That time from last year is going to be smashed into oblivion by the end of this test.
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After day 2 morning session, would appear Hamilton likes his new Ferrari more than his old Merc. Almost 2s quicker than he was in his Merc during day two last year (Day 2 was Hamiltons quickest laps of testing last year).

Hamilton and Sainz laptimes at least making testing interesting so far.
 
MuterOfWorlds said:
After day 2 morning session, would appear Hamilton likes his new Ferrari more than his old Merc. Almost 2s quicker than he was in his Merc during day two last year (Day 2 was Hamiltons quickest laps of testing last year).

Hamilton and Sainz laptimes at least making testing interesting so far.
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It's testing. They're all testing different variables...
 
the fact that Lh put a time on that is 3 tenths off the pole time for last year in testing shows just how insane this season will be
 
MuterOfWorlds said:
And your point in context of my post though?
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Do you think when prepping for testing, Ferrari though "hmm let's see what Hamilton's times were last year in a Merc on day 2 and try to beat that".

The point in the context of your post is teams are testing different setups on this year's car for this year's races. You can't even compare times between different drivers in the same testing session because they're all running different setups. Let alone trying to compare one driver in two different teams, in two different years...
 
I do agree with mike on this one.

cant compare this year testing to last year testing at all.

but using the pole time from last year as a benchmark to show relative improvement.

and maybe comparing the best times from testing last year to the pole time, to get an idea of how much potential improvement there could be on the testing times....
 
2024 Day 1 of testing results
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compared to 2025 day 1 testing results:
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and then you compare that to Quali time for pole by max that was a 1:29.179

then you look at day 2 from 2024:
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and you look at jsut session 1 from 2025 so far and remember session was damp!
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and what can we learn from that?

nothing its testing!

what do we want to learn from it, the cars are closer together, the gaps are smaller, and it looks like overall the lap times in 2025 will be faster than that of 2024.
 
I know there was some rain that may have affected the track, but I find it impressive that Hamilton's time from the morning session is still standing up, particularly as I think Sainz time was set in the afternoon session when in theory the track should have been more rubbered in.
 
Ok, for context.

I'm not saying Hamilton is gonna smash the championship, not the point or even a thought at point of post.

I'm just noting that his laptimes appear to indicate he is more comfortable in that Ferrari than he was in the Merc. Hard to think he can't be happier with that Ferrari vs the ground effect Merc's he was driving considering he is almost 2seconds quicker than his quickest laptime last year.

Sainz laptimes further add intrigue. Again, not saying going to smash the championship, or even a thought at point of post either.
Those laptimes in that Williams are interesting, they were set on mediums, not softs.

It's only testing, can't read much into things, but the 'outlyer' incidents we're seeing make things intriguing in the implications/points of interest they raise for discussion.
 
MuterOfWorlds said:
Ok, for context.

I'm not saying Hamilton is gonna smash the championship, not the point or even a thought at point of post.

I'm just noting that his laptimes appear to indicate he is more comfortable in that Ferrari than he was in the Merc. Hard to think he can't be happier with that Ferrari vs the ground effect Merc's he was driving considering he is almost 2seconds quicker than his quickest laptime last year.

Sainz laptimes further add intrigue. Again, not saying going to smash the championship, or even a thought at point of post either.
Those laptimes in that Williams are interesting, they were set on mediums, not softs.

It's only testing, can't read much into things, but the 'outlyer' incidents we're seeing make things intriguing in the implications/points of interest they raise for discussion.
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Completely agree.

The times themselves are fairly pointless as a data set and comparison to last year is fairly pointless too.

However, the order and spread of the field are interesting. Quite small gaps overall (1.5s to 10th) and a Williams in front on Mediums is interesting (even if not indicative).

We can expect the leaders to stretch the gap when they really push, but overall the spread seems relatively close which is a good sign.
 
OMG
So all the developments, parts, setup and tweaking during every season does not make the cars faster?
DTS probably skipped that chapter.
 
MuterOfWorlds said:
Ok, for context.

I'm not saying Hamilton is gonna smash the championship, not the point or even a thought at point of post.

I'm just noting that his laptimes appear to indicate he is more comfortable in that Ferrari than he was in the Merc. Hard to think he can't be happier with that Ferrari vs the ground effect Merc's he was driving considering he is almost 2seconds quicker than his quickest laptime last year.

Sainz laptimes further add intrigue. Again, not saying going to smash the championship, or even a thought at point of post either.
Those laptimes in that Williams are interesting, they were set on mediums, not softs.

It's only testing, can't read much into things, but the 'outlyer' incidents we're seeing make things intriguing in the implications/points of interest they raise for discussion.
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I think a happy Hamilton is a quick Hamilton, so I think you'll see him there at the front. And he's looking REALLY happy so far.
Mercedes look nice and comfortable too, Antonelli didn't do anything silly.
I think we may see a resurgent Williams badgering the upper midfield. Sainz is looking comfortable too.

Can't wait for that first race!
 
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