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MaxQz said:
I never mentioned anything about Hamilton being negative about the car, because fundamentally there is nothing wrong with the car, it's the driver, so he should be negative about himself, and I'm well aware of Alonso's temperament that's why I said that Alonso can be a handful as well, knowing his fiery temper. Yes, Alonso will always be the better option, and the reason I use Alonso is because they are from the same era and the two oldest drivers in F1, thus the comparison., and I will stand by that statement that Alonso overall is a better driver than Hamilton. I could've said anyone else's name could be put in that Ferrari now, and they will still do better.

The McLaren when Alonso was there, now that car was a real dog, as slow as an F2 car and back of the field, so yes, frustrations and complaints can be excused when the driver is wanting to perform and move forward. To even compare it to this year's Ferrari is ludicrous, and this year's Ferrari is not so bad. I'm picking on Hamilton for a reason, because so much more is expected of him and because of his credentials and achievements, it will stand out more when it's lacking. The basics of an F1 car are all the same, and at the end of the day how you manage to setup your car will determine if you're fast or not. It seems Hamilton and his race engineer can't even do that. If you can't figure out how to use the brakes, seriously, or to make sure your car isn't lose at the rear, or to gain time in certain corners etc. How much time do you need to get used to something... it's already been round 9 in the season for an experienced driver.

And to even compare Alonso against Stroll, even this season, now that's just being thick and funny.

You guys can sugar coat all you want, I say it like I see it.
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How much better do you expect Hamilton to be when Charles isn't having a spectacular season, either? Charles is no slouch, and as it is, he is behind George Russell in the standings and Hamilton is one place behind him. Who do you put in that Ferrari and expect better results than both Charles and Hamilton?

As for how good or bad that car is, Vasseur said this 3 days ago -

Ferrari team principal Fred Vasseur has demanded that the outfit fixes the SF-25's balance issues, with him having acknowledged that the Italians "are struggling".

The Maranello-based outfit have endured a troublesome start to the season, which has seen both Charles Leclerc and Lewis Hamilton complain of the car's performance.
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"It's not a secret that we are struggling a little bit with the balance of the car, we have to improve on this," Vasseur told Sky F1.
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Fred Vasseur makes key Ferrari demand: 'We are struggling'

Ferrari has a lot of catching up to do in the constructors' title, with one problem having held Charles Leclerc and Lewis Hamilton back.
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Prior to that, Charles was deeply critical of the car ahead of Monaco.

By this time last year, Ferrari had won 2 races and picked up 9 podiums, including a 1-2. The SF-25 has been a huge step backwards from the SF-24.
 
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thestaggy said:
How much better do you expect Hamilton to be when Charles isn't having a spectacular season, either? Charles is no slouch, and as it is, he is behind George Russell in the standings and Hamilton is one place behind him. Who do you put in that Ferrari and expect better results than both Charles and Hamilton?

As for how good or bad that car is, Vasseur said this 3 days ago -





racingnews365.com

Fred Vasseur makes key Ferrari demand: 'We are struggling'

Ferrari has a lot of catching up to do in the constructors' title, with one problem having held Charles Leclerc and Lewis Hamilton back.
racingnews365.com racingnews365.com

Prior to that, Charles was deeply critical of the car ahead of Monaco.

By this time last year, Ferrari had won 2 races and picked up 9 podiums, including a 1-2. The SF-25 has been a huge step backwards from the SF-24.
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This oke must be another DTS Ferrari fan.
 
thestaggy said:
How much better do you expect Hamilton to be when Charles isn't having a spectacular season, either? Charles is no slouch, and as it is, he is behind George Russell in the standings and Hamilton is one place behind him. Who do you put in that Ferrari and expect better results than both Charles and Hamilton?

As for how good or bad that car is, Vasseur said this 3 days ago -





racingnews365.com

Fred Vasseur makes key Ferrari demand: 'We are struggling'

Ferrari has a lot of catching up to do in the constructors' title, with one problem having held Charles Leclerc and Lewis Hamilton back.
racingnews365.com racingnews365.com

Prior to that, Charles was deeply critical of the car ahead of Monaco.

By this time last year, Ferrari had won 2 races and picked up 9 podiums, including a 1-2. The SF-25 has been a huge step backwards from the SF-24.
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To be fair to Lewis, he has said he has battled to get to grips with this regulation cars but yeah I can't think that Sainz would have been much better.

Only reason Merc is third at the moment is due to Kimi still finding his feet. Not much in it between Ferrari and Mercedes cars atm.

Charles was moaning every weekend like you said, so clearly that car ain't great.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
If Piastri wins one more, he'll be tied with LeClerc for the number of race wins...

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How many race wins does each 2025 F1 driver have?

Half of the 2025 Formula 1 grid have won at least one grand prix. Here's our recap of how many victories each driver has
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If Ferrari does not produce a championship winning car in the next few years I think Charles might find himself at the wrong age of 30 without a competitive seat. Would be a shame though, he definitely is good enough to be a champion.
 
dotdan said:
If Ferrari does not produce a championship winning car in the next few years I think Charles might find himself at the wrong age of 30 without a competitive seat. Would be a shame though, he definitely is good enough to be a champion.
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At least he didn't move there to retire like most do. He's still relatively young and will easily walk into one of the other top teams should a spot open up. If Max moves, RB is the obvious candidate...
 
dotdan said:
To be fair to Lewis, he has said he has battled to get to grips with this regulation cars but yeah I can't think that Sainz would have been much better.

Only reason Merc is third at the moment is due to Kimi still finding his feet. Not much in it between Ferrari and Mercedes cars atm.

Charles was moaning every weekend like you said, so clearly that car ain't great.
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Sainz may have done better, but he still wouldn't be doing any better than Charles.

People criticise Hamilton in a vacuum when his own highly rated, and fast, teammate is not enjoying the car, so there is context here. Could Hamilton do better and be less negative, probably, but there is a realistic ceiling here as to how much better.
 
Fact
Hamilton was beaten last year by his much younger and less experienced teammate.
Fact
Hamilton is being beaten this year by his much younger less experienced teammate.

You can spin it all you like, the facts tell the story. The 7 time world champion is 0.2-0.4 seconds a lap slower than his teammate. That is big in F1. That is the story the press should run with, not Verstappen giving us some excitement the last lap.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
At least he didn't move there to retire like most do. He's still relatively young and will easily walk into one of the other top teams should a spot open up. If Max moves, RB is the obvious candidate...
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I think Aston would be a good fit for Charlie boy. He fits the "brand" well. I can't see him in fitting in at RB tbh. But it is about who has the best car from next year, so I think there might be some driver shake ups coming in 26/27.
 
dotdan said:
I think Aston would be a good fit for Charlie boy. He fits the "brand" well. I can't see him in fitting in at RB tbh. But it is about who has the best car from next year, so I think there might be some driver shake ups coming in 26/27.
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Imho Charles is with Ferrari for the long haul - I can't see him leaving before the next regulation changes around ~2030, if at all.
 
Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
Fact
Hamilton was beaten last year by his much younger and less experienced teammate.
Fact
Hamilton is being beaten this year by his much younger less experienced teammate.

You can spin it all you like, the facts tell the story. The 7 time world champion is 0.2-0.4 seconds a lap slower than his teammate. That is big in F1. That is the story the press should run with, not Verstappen giving us some excitement the last lap.
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He's also the only Ferrari driver with a pole and race win this year. He's also stepped into a completely different car and team and has to get used to all of that. You seem to think that's inconsequential. F1 drivers don't and I value their opinion above yours because they don't even watch DTS which makes them far more knowledgeable and dependable than your Netflix ass.
 
UrBaN963 said:
He's also the only Ferrari driver with a pole and race win this year. He's also stepped into a completely different car and team and has to get used to all of that. You seem to think that's inconsequential. F1 drivers don't and I value their opinion above yours because they don't even watch DTS which makes them far more knowledgeable and dependable than your Netflix ass.
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LOL you a funny guy. You are the one that inform us every year when DTS start, You are the one that discuss the happening of DTS here on the forum.
Anyway so what happened last year? He was the experienced driver at Merc, been with that car for long? Stop talking BS. And nobody care about sprint races. Even Toto said so.
 
Jean Claude Vaaldamme said:
LOL you a funny guy. You are the one that inform us every year when DTS start, You are the one that discuss the happening of DTS here on the forum.
Anyway so what happened last year? He was the experienced driver at Merc, been with that car for long? Stop talking BS. And nobody care about sprint races. Even Toto said so.
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Of course I post when DTS starts. You run away instantly and we have peace for a while. It's a community service.

Last year he didn't do as well as Russell, that's all that happened. You suffer from recency bias (Google it).
 
PCWARITM said:
Did you not understand my post? It covered the 8th title they stole.
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FML 5 years later and the insane LH radical gang are still on it!
They just can't accept that finishing under a safety car isn't what any team wanted or agreed to, and that the race director has the final say and listened to the teams, F1 advisory and the F1 committee etc.

cry harder, you're almost there

ha ha ha ha! IDIOT! - Laughing Albert Einstein Meme Generator
 
Geezes is Willie trombone still carrying on about the grand theft
 
PCWARITM said:
LMAO so it was Verstappen who picked the hards. He had no idea what was left. He asked for fresh rubber.

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New Max Verstappen evidence emerges in untelevised team radio

Untelevised team radio from the Spanish Grand Prix has revealed the role Red Bull driver Max Verstappen played in his own downfall.
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I get that - but at the point of the SC call they could have also told him that he only had hards - give him the option of fresh hards or used softs
 
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