F1 2026

I said it after Austrailia. and I am saying it now agian.

it is too soon into the new regulations to say if it is a bad rule set or not.
 
Baxteen said:
I said it after Austrailia. and I am saying it now agian.

it is too soon into the new regulations to say if it is a bad rule set or not.
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Feels alot like the porpoising issues from start of ground effect to me.

That vid on Le Clerc and glitches see, it does look like it potentially about teams getting things wrong in early stages of the regs rather than it being a reg issue itself.

Doesnt mean not room for tweaks to the regs, like we saw with ground effect era.
 
no matter how you put it, this is not F1

According to this report, Colapinto is losing almost 100km/h while at full throttle on the straight!!!

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Naks said:
no matter how you put it, this is not F1

According to this report, Colapinto is losing almost 100km/h while at full throttle on the straight!!!

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Same as teams not able to push at beginning of ground effect era cause they got their design and balance wrong?

The software running these cars is proving complicated and teams are getting it wrong. Mclaren have the same engine as Mercedes, but not the software, have to figure it out themselves and look at the impact that has had first 2 races.

Start of ground effect era looked bad too. Merc's, Toto and co were making lots of noise about so called safety and all sorts of things to try make up for fact they could not run cars as low or push as hard as Redbull could.

New era, same drama.
 
MuterOfWorlds said:
Same as teams not able to push at beginning of ground effect era cause they got their design and balance wrong?

The software running these cars is proving complicated and teams are getting it wrong. Mclaren have the same engine as Mercedes, but not the software, have to figure it out themselves and look at the impact that has had first 2 races.

Start of ground effect era looked bad too. Merc's, Toto and co were making lots of noise about so called safety and all sorts of things to try make up for fact they could not run cars as low or push as hard as Redbull could.

New era, same drama.
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It's got nothing to do with settings or software. It's having too little electric capacity available when your electric motor provides half the car's power.
8 mega joules is 2.2 kwh. Motor produces 350kw.
So the battery can power the motor for 1/175th of an hour per lap. That's 20 seconds of electric power per lap.
 
Sinbad said:
It's got nothing to do with settings or software. It's having too little electric capacity available when your electric motor provides half the car's power.
8 mega joules is 2.2 kwh. Motor produces 350kw.
So the battery can power the motor for 1/175th of an hour per lap. That's 20 seconds of electric power per lap.
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I've tried saying that for I don't know how long. These guys are stuck on the fact that it's working for Mercedes, it's working for Ferrari, so they're happy irrespective of the realities around the sport.
 
Sinbad said:
It's got nothing to do with settings or software. It's having too little electric capacity available when your electric motor provides half the car's power.
8 mega joules is 2.2 kwh. Motor produces 350kw.
So the battery can power the motor for 1/175th of an hour per lap. That's 20 seconds of electric power per lap.
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8 MJ is not the battery’s usable capacity per lap. It’s the maximum energy the MGU-K may harvest per lap under the 2026 rules. The battery itself is limited to about a 4 MJ state-of-charge swing, so it can’t simply deploy 8 MJ continuously. Total deployment comes from ongoing harvesting + redeployment, not a single stored lump of energy.
 
quovadis said:
8 MJ is not the battery’s usable capacity per lap. It’s the maximum energy the MGU-K may harvest per lap under the 2026 rules. The battery itself is limited to about a 4 MJ state-of-charge swing, so it can’t simply deploy 8 MJ continuously. Total deployment comes from ongoing harvesting + redeployment, not a single stored lump of energy.
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So then it's even worse. 10 seconds of continuous deployment? That's just pathetic.

Franco Colapinto's speed dropped from 329 km/h to 231 km/h despite being at 100% throttle in Suzuka 🪫😳

231km/h flat out? That's so thrilling. This is the Kurtzman version of F1.
 
Sinbad said:
So then it's even worse. 10 seconds of continuous deployment? That's just pathetic.

Franco Colapinto's speed dropped from 329 km/h to 231 km/h despite being at 100% throttle in Suzuka 🪫😳

231km/h flat out? That's so thrilling.
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You’re thinking in “one dump” terms. The ~4 MJ swing (~11–12s at 350 kW) isn’t the whole story - energy is harvested and redeployed continuously over the lap. So deployment is spread across multiple zones, not one 10-second burst.

So the issue is not just raw battery math it is also very much about how the system is mapped, harvested, deployed and scheduled around the lap.

Some teams clearly have figured out a better way to do this as per previous years but without the adhoc on-demand button.
 
quovadis said:
You’re thinking in “one dump” terms. The ~4 MJ swing (~11–12s at 350 kW) isn’t the whole story - energy is harvested and redeployed continuously over the lap. So deployment is spread across multiple zones, not one 10-second burst.

So the issue is not just raw battery math it is also very much about how the system is mapped, harvested, deployed and scheduled around the lap.

Some teams clearly have figured out a better way to do this as per previous years but without the adhoc on-demand button.
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But still a max of 20 seconds per lap.

Yes some teams do it better than others, but still it's a farce.
 
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