F1 - General discussion and 2017

Just hope this new regime lures more makers back to F1. Would love to see the likes of Aston Martin, BMW, Alfa Romeo :love: and VW/Audi/Porsche competing with Ferrari, McLaren and Mercedes.
 
Just hope this new regime lures more makers back to F1. Would love to see the likes of Aston Martin, BMW, Alfa Romeo :love: and VW/Audi/Porsche competing with Ferrari, McLaren and Mercedes.
Sadly I feel that it will still not happen. The barrier to entry is generally the issue. Bernie not being there anymore isn't going to change that.
 
Sadly I feel that it will still not happen. The barrier to entry is generally the issue. Bernie not being there anymore isn't going to change that.
I beg to differ, hopefully.

Bernie applied one strategy, business clevers may come up with other that will allow for more reasonable intake.
 
I beg to differ, hopefully.

Bernie applied one strategy, business clevers may come up with other that will allow for more reasonable intake.
Issue remains, it isn't as simple as taking the roof of a Polo, or changing the engine in an LMP1 car. There is a lot or R&D that needs to happen first.
 
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Simplicity is the key, says Brawn

F1's new technical managing director Ross Brawn says that simplicity is the key to the sport's future.
It would be easier to list what Ross Brawn doesn't know about motorsport than what he does know, the Briton has won multiple world championships in F1 as well as playing a key role in Jaguar's Sportscar success in the early 90s. Indeed, his eponymous F1 team, having won the drivers' and constructors' title in 2009, was subsequently sold to Mercedes which continues to dominate the sport.
Despite his engineering background however, newly installed as the technical head of the F1 company, the Briton insists that keeping it simple is the key to building the sport

"What I want to develop along with all the other stakeholders in F1, the teams, the FIA and so on, is to get a vision of where we want to be in the next few years," he told BBC 5 Live.
"I know from experience that F1 tends to be reactive," he continued. "It has a problem and it reacts and tries to find a solution, but very rarely has the vision of looking forward three-to-five years and deciding where it wants to be.
"So I think we know what fans want," he said, "they want entertainment, they want close racing, they want to be able to understand what's going on. I think everyone agrees on that, but it's finding the path with all the other teams and all the other people involved to achieve that.
"Simplicity is a key objective for the future," he continued. "I've watched for the last few years as a spectator, and there are times even I haven't been sure what's been going on.
"It's a great sport," he enthused, "it's a fabulous combination of the drivers and their personalities, their competition, and the cars and the whole thing... we just need to look at it and see how we can improve the show.
"The fans want racing, and we haven't seen too much of that. We've seen a great competition between two drivers in the same team for the last few years, and that's no fault of Mercedes. They've done a fabulous job. I think the fans want racing, they want to understand what's going on in the race.
"There are different types of fans of course, and that's where the complication comes. There are fans who come to the races, there are the fans who watch TV and the fans who watch through other media. It's finding a balance between all of those requirements.
"We want the race, for instance, to be as big a show as we can make it, so when you come to a race for a weekend, you're entertained from beginning to end."
Clearly, Brawn is singing from the same hymn sheet as Carey and has the same desires for Liberty's new purchase as the rest, but like Carey's insistence that the British Grand Prix will be safe there is no explanation of how this might be achieved. Furthermore, such changes, to the sporting side of things, are not the work of a moment and will take years, and in the meantime fans will to continue to drift away.

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Stewards to ease up on collision penalties

While Max Verstappen had race fans on the edge of their seats in 2016 - as in 2015 - race stewards were on their toes.
Such was the Dutch racer's robust defence of his position when under attack, the FIA was called on to clarify the rules, essentially giving the Red Bull driver the all-clear.
Indeed, Verstappen's arrival has got officials a little jittery, and as a result of a number of incidents - not necessarily involving the youngster - this season race stewards have been called on to take a more relaxed view of in-race clashes.
One incident, not involving Verstappen, that few agreed with was Nico Rosberg's clash with Kimi Raikkonen in Malaysia, the German incurring a points penalty. Speaking after the race Mercedes team boss described the stewards decision as "complete nonsense".
Indeed, so jittery were the stewards becoming that on those rare occasions when a driver was tempted to overtake, fearing a penalty, said driver often opted to play safe. Indeed, in the season finale, battling for the title, Rosberg had to take a major gamble in making a move on Verstappen, and not just in terms of the youngster's known aggression.
Following last week's meeting of the World Motor Sport Council; "unless it is clear to the stewards that a driver was wholly or predominantly to blame for an incident no penalty will be imposed".
Indeed, from now on it will be up to the stewards to decide whether they want to investigate an incident reported to them by the Race Director: "The race director may report any on-track incident or suspected breach of these Sporting Regulations or the Code (an “Incident”) to the stewards. After review it shall be at the discretion of the stewards to decide whether or not to proceed with an investigation".
In another move sure to create a buzz, drivers who incur a time penalty, drive-through or stop-and-go penalty during a race but are unable to serve it due to a DNF may incur a grid penalty at the following race.
In addition to confirming that races will now feature standing starts following Safety Car periods, a revised timetable has been issued for the period before the race.
Following a couple of late arrivals for the national anthem ceremony last year, this year, in an attempt to ensure all the drivers are present the pitlane - once opened - will close ten minutes later, leaving twenty minutes before the race. Drivers must then be at the head of the grid for the ceremony which will take place 14 minutes before the start.
Sadly, this rule will not be relaxed if the singer of the anthem is the winner of a reality TV show.

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Simplicity is the key, says Brawn



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This echos what the MD of Renault, Cyril Abiteboul, said last year. F1 needs to take a step back on the tech front, dumb itself down a little, open itself up to fans and hopefully create a greater spectacle

Stewards to ease up on collision penalties



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I don't have an issue with forceful passing moves, but moving under braking, especially in the braking zone, should always be a no-no.
 
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This echos what the MD of Renault, Cyril Abiteboul, said last year. F1 needs to take a step back on the tech front, dumb itself down a little, open itself up to fans and hopefully create a greater spectacle

Well, if ever there has been a gap for good things to happen its probably now. I understand likely not tomorrow but i expect to see changes for 2018.
 
FIA tweaks driver penalty rules for 2017

Formula One racing’s governing body, the FIA, has modified the regulations regarding penalties ahead of the 2017 season, meaning that drivers will now only be punished if it is absolutely clear that they are at fault.

Under the new procedures, race director Charlie Whiting will still report incidents to the stewards as before, but from there the stewards will have the choice as to whether to launch an investigation or not.

"It shall be at the discretion of the stewards to decide if any driver involved in an incident should be penalised,” article 38.2 of the sporting regulations now states.

"Unless it is clear to the stewards that a driver was wholly or predominantly to blame for an incident no penalty will be imposed."

It is hoped that this move will encourage drivers to attempt more overtaking moves, without the fear that they may be punished for minor contact.

In other penalty changes, drivers now unable to serve an imposed time, stop-and-go or drive-through penalty during a race due to retirement may be hit with a grid penalty at the next event.

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There is only one... Fernando Alonso

Some will have you believe that Fernando Alonso’s F1 title tally would be far higher than two, had he only chosen the right teams at the right time. But to be fair, narrowing multiple options down to one selection can be tricky. Here’s how the Spaniard fared in our ‘life choice’ challenge…

If you could pick just one meal to eat for the rest of your life, what would it be?


Fernando Alonso: Pizza.

If you could pick just one pizza topping what would it be?

FA: For sure not Margherita - that is something for Sebastian* (Vettel)! (Laughs) I like it with Spanish ham.

If you could pick just one holiday destination…

FA: The Maldives.

If you could pick just one track to race on…

FA: Suzuka.

If you could pick just one road car to drive…

FA: The McLaren P1.

If you could pick just one race car to drive…

FA: McLaren MP4/4.

If you could pick just one video game to play…

FA: I play a lot of football games. Probably it would be FIFA.

If you could pick just one colour to wear…

FA: Black.

If you could pick just one sport to play…

FA: Basketball.

If you could pick just one song to listen to…

FA: ‘Have a nice day’ by Bon Jovi.

If you could pick just one thing to drink…

FA: Apple juice.

If you could pick just one book to read…

FA: ‘Open’ by Andre Agassi.

If you could pick just one city to live in…

FA: Oviedo, my hometown.

If you could pick just one movie to watch…

FA: It would be a comedy…

If you could pick just one person to live with…

FA: That is work in progress.

If you could pick just one team mate…

FA: I would repeat one: Giancarlo Fisichella.

If you could pick just one fruit to eat…

FA: Banana.

If you could pick just one vegetable to eat…

FA: Courgette.

If you could pick just one mode of transport to use…

FA: Train. I like to use trains. Everywhere that I can, I take trains.

If you could pick just one gadget to own…

FA: iPhone.

If you could pick just one F1 corner to drive…

FA: Eau Rouge.

If you could pick just one age to be…

FA: 23 or 24. From then on it is only going downhill! (laughs)

If you could pick just one F1 era to race in…

FA: The 90s.

If you could pick just one band or singer to listen to…

FA: Bon Jovi.

If you could pick just one piece of exercise equipment to train with…

FA: Bicycle.

If you could pick just one thing to collect…

FA: If I were to collect something it would probably be watches.

If you could wear just one type of shoe to wear…

FA: Sneakers.

If you could pick just one type of chocolate or candy to snack on…

FA: Lollipop.

If you could pick just one memory from your racing career to keep…

FA: Brazil 2006, when I won the championship again.

If you could pick just one other motorsport to watch…

FA: MotoGP - that I really like to watch.

If you could pick just one person to date…

FA: I need to think that over very carefully, otherwise it will be all over in the Spanish papers! Probably Charlize Theron.


* Sebastian Vettel named his 2016 Ferrari F1 car 'Margherita'
 
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Toyota being a good example.

It isn't easy, but considering Toyota started from scratch, building their own chassis and engines, they did start moving in the right direction and the TF110 is still a big ''What if?'' I think it was more the fact that they spent so much money that casts a shadow over their efforts.

The only other manufactures in the modern era that have tasted success while developing both the car and engine all purchased a going concern which allowed them to make use of existing technical knowledge. Renault 2.0 purchased Benetton, a well-established and successful team. Honda - while not really successful - purchased BAR. BMW purchased Sauber. Mercedes in-turn bought in to the Brawn/Honda/BAR/Tyrrell heritage.

Ford screwed up badly when they purchased Stewart as they got their hands on a promising team only to run it in to the ground.

The only other serious effort I can think of in recent decades where a manufacture went it alone and had success was Renault's first foray in to the sport in the late 70s. They turned in to legitimate title contenders with Prost before the relationship collapsed. Alfa Romeo also had a go as a constructor in the late 70s and early 80s after being an engine supplier but it was a failure.
 
I don't know hey, that looks awfully a lot like a Red Bull.

Makes me think "Spider Man".

But do McLaren have both SAP and Castrol as sponsors ?
It clearly says Mclaren on the rear wing though.
 
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