F1 - General discussion and 2017

caroper

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I was away for the weekend so have been avoiding the forums till I had watched the replay.
Glad I did, it was worth not knowing the result for those last few laps.

p.s. For anyone else that missed it [video]https://my.mail.ru/mail/burningwheels/video/_myvideo/255.html?time=NaN&from=videoplayer[/video]
 
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FIA Confirms HALO System use for 2018 Season

For the first time, all teams competing in the FIA Formula One World Championship were present at the meeting with observers from Renault Sport Formula One Team, Scuderia Toro Rosso, Sauber F1 Team and Haas F1 Team in attendance.

Key topics discussed at the meeting included:

Frontal cockpit protection

Following the unanimous agreement of the Strategy Group, in July 2016, to introduce additional frontal protection for Formula One and the repeated support from the drivers, the FIA confirms the introduction of the Halo for 2018. With the support of the teams, certain features of its design will be further enhanced.

Having developed and evaluated a large number of devices over the past five years, it had become clear that the Halo presents the best overall safety performance.

2021 Power Unit

An update was given to all attendees regarding the two recent extraordinary meetings held in Paris involving significant representation from the bulk of global motor sport power unit manufacturers.

Further analysis will be completed over the summer which will be reviewed at the next meeting of the Strategy Group in September.

Cost control

A new approach to cost control was presented and received unanimous support. A dedicated Working Group made up of representation from the Commercial Right Holders, the FIA and the teams will be tasked to come up with innovative solutions aimed at ensuring the sport remains sustainable in the coming years.

Improving the show

A number of sporting measures aimed at improving the show were also debated and specific studies will be carried out to assess these.

http://www.fia.com/news/f1-strategy...m-use-2018-fia-formula-one-world-championship
 

caroper

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It's our own fault, we should have collectively learnt by now.
If the fans had united and demanded that they use the Halo - it never would have been approved.
 

UrBaN963

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According to the article, there's unanimous agreement that such a thing is needed. I wonder why they didn't go with the shield Vettel tested. That doesn't look bad.
 

caroper

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According to the article, there's unanimous agreement that such a thing is needed. I wonder why they didn't go with the shield Vettel tested. That doesn't look bad.

Apparently there was too much distortion of vision and it restricted egress in the event of an emergency.
Not that I saw anything official, but that was the gist of the comments that followed the tests.

I hope the teams just refuse to use it.

They can't, if it is in the rules then the car cannot be homologated without it.
 

UrBaN963

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Hmmm I had wondered about that, also wondered about glare from the sun and such. Perhaps the closed cockpit really is the future. Can't be worse than making drivers wear a doughnut.
 

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I still think this whole thing is a knee jerk reaction. Yes, drivers tragically died by being hit by debris but when you consider how many races of different open wheeled classes occur around the world and how many drivers are in those races, and how many laps they do, it works out a tiny fraction of a percent that ended in fatality.

I'm just wondering what happens when, Godforbid, a driver dies with this device implemented. Where to next? Armoured vehicles?

Anyway, looks like we're stuck with it so we might as well get used to it...
 

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I still think this whole thing is a knee jerk reaction. Yes, drivers tragically died by being hit by debris but when you consider how many races of different open wheeled classes occur around the world and how many drivers are in those races, and how many laps they do, it works out a tiny fraction of a percent that ended in fatality.

I'm just wondering what happens when, Godforbid, a driver dies with this device implemented. Where to next? Armoured vehicles?

Anyway, looks like we're stuck with it so we might as well get used to it...

What triggered it in F1 was Bianchi's death.

Sure, Massa's injury and the deaths of Henry Surtees and Justin Wilson had already brought the topic up, but Bianchi pushed it over. The reality is though, a Halo device would not have saved him.
 

caroper

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I'm just wondering what happens when, Godforbid, a driver dies with this device implemented. Where to next? Armoured vehicles?

No, they will invoke the road relevant argument and go driverless.

It will still be a team event, still a contest between the engineers and they will drop a huge cost factor if they are not paying driver salaries.
 

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No, they will invoke the road relevant argument and go driverless.

It will still be a team event, still a contest between the engineers and they will drop a huge cost factor if they are not paying driver salaries.
May move that way with simulators first. Might get our first 5 year old f1 champ. But the halo sucks, i blame Adele for making it famous.
 

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Can someone show me pic's of the vettel one and the propose halo's.
 

UrBaN963

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Can someone show me pic's of the vettel one and the propose halo's.

Shield

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Halo

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