Falsified documents: afriforum exposes dodgy eff payments

Why not just seek an explanation from the EFF's representation who sent these documents? they need to start somewhere, according to AF statement on their site the EFF's representation Ian Levitt's Attorneys sent these documents. Something is fishy.
 
rietrot said:
With the Guptas the banks all decided to act together for political reasons.
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Political reason's ? You do know the ANC control the Gvt and banks make huge profits from them, why would they want to piss them off. If they loved money they would have looked the other way.
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King Sollie Solomon said:
1.And you magically keep on forgetting potentially again.

2. Criminal fraud? Where did you get that term? You can't just make up these things on the fly to suit your argument. :X3: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:

PS: Could you please PM me Rietrot Law's address, I have some 'too clevuh' Nigerian princes I'd really love to refer to you.
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1. No i didn't forget that. I specifically explained it.
2. Just speaking casually. https://lawguide.co.za/south-african-criminal-law/

You seem very emotionally invested here and are moving back into bad faith argumentation like just quoting the entire fica act at me.
 
TheChamp said:
There is probably not much they can do, besides confirming if they are authentic or not, Solidarity and all the other people who got the allegedly falsified proof of payment can pursue this.
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So, if someone sends me false proof of payment and if I doubt then banks will give that information to me about it without court order ? That sounds good.
 
Vorastra said:
I saw this happen live on Twitter.
It was funny af seeing all the EFF simps inadvertently helping Afriforum by pointing out all the things wrong with the document.
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I do not see much wrong with the documents provided - i.e visible evidence to suspect the proof of payment was changed. Would love to be educated in this regard.
 
As I understand it FICA requires accountable and reporting institutions to determine the source of funds for any amount paid over R49999. In this case, this would presumably be Afriforum's bank?
 
MrGray said:
As I understand it FICA requires accountable and reporting institutions to determine the source of funds for any amount paid over R49999. In this case, this would presumably be Afriforum's bank?
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Bank generally ask for the source of funds/income when you open an account not on each specific transaction.

So they would probably just have "donations" recorded for EFF and Afriforum on their profile. They might ask again if a transaction seems "irregular" according to them, but that is very subjective. And everyone involved likely do large transactions regularly so it won't be flagged as something irregular.
 
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rietrot said:
Bank generally ask for the source of funds/income when you open an account not on each specific transaction.

So they would probably just have "donations" recorded for EFF and Afriforum on their profile. They might ask again if a transaction seems "irregular" according to them, but that is very subjective. And everyone involved likely do large transactions regularly so it won't be flagged as something irregular.
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Presumably they are now compelled to flag this as irregular and determine the source of funds.
 
rietrot said:
Bank generally ask for the source of funds/income when you open an account not on each specific transaction.

So they would probably just have "donations" recorded for EFF and Afriforum on their profile. They might ask again if a transaction seems "irregular" according to them, but that is very subjective. And everyone involved likely do large transactions regularly so it won't be flagged as something irregular.

How it would work practically, If someone even noticed was they would call Afriforum and ask. "Hi you normally get donations of R150 from your members, what is this R300k amount.
Then Afriforum would just reply. "O legal fees."
Done. That would be it. No deep investigation are done or anything, that is very expensive and takes specialized man power.

Somehow I messed this up. I just meant to edit the above post to make it more complete.

Source of funds is not specifically who the funds are from, but generally what kind of business you are in. It is for money laundering purposes to identify "irregular" transactions and build a profile. The specific transaction details is there for the specifics, if that is needed.

For a normal person your Source of funds would be salary/wages.
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RedViking said:
Your opinion matters.
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What that trolltrot is generally clueless about reality? I thought that was obvious from the postings in this thread? :P

As for the actual issue, this is not gonna go well for the EFF if they did falsify the documents, or its not gonna go well for AF if they claim they're falsified but aren't... and SB is caught in the middle of a political shyteshow and is probably going "Fsck it, what the actual fsck".
 
Would this not fall under donations tax?
 
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