Farm Attacks

I would've laughed this off in the beginning, but after decades of this...I, now, firmly believe that it is.
Doubt it is any sort of plan. They're just incapable of stopping crime anywhere in this country. If it was white people they plan to kill then why just farmers and not all of the other white people. Conspiracies and tinfoil hattery don't help.
 
Doubt it is any sort of plan. They're just incapable of stopping crime anywhere in this country. If it was white people they plan to kill then why just farmers and not all of the other white people. Conspiracies and tinfoil hattery don't help.

I disagree.
Disbanding departments that protected people in rural areas -especially the people who feeds us all, regardless of color- was not "incompetence".
It was intentional.
Constantly singing about murdering people...who are still actively being murdered right now in 2020, is not "incompetence".
It's intentional.
Not condemning or actively speaking out about or doing something about people who are murdered at an alarming rate, is not "incompetence".
It's intentional.
So yes, I totally believe it's all "part of the plan."
 
We as citizens need to organise a mass march to parliament. And I mean a huge huge march. Not a piss willy little gathering. We need a leader to stand up and coordinate this. Steenhuizen? Maak 'n plan boet.
I'm sorry what? protest to who you say? Listen. Politics is a messing game and they all do not give 2 cents until election day comes. No, what all the farmers need to do is band together like they did a year back and lockdown small towns kick out the local governments and establish small settlements. Stop trading to the bigger cities and get local/international news revved up. Farmers need to take a stand, like us all.
 
I disagree.
Disbanding departments that protected people in rural areas -especially the people who feeds us all, regardless of color- was not "incompetence".
Yes, removing the commandos was intentional. The ANC I think did that because they saw the commandos as a militia plus they were almost entirely made up of former apartheid soldiers and operatives. In addition to that, I think they saw it as abandoning their voters while offering special protection to mainly white farmers. Their own people were and are suffering worse. (I know the debate about farm murder per capita and how those numbers are muddled depending on who you ask).

Constantly singing about murdering people...who are still actively being murdered right now in 2020, is not "incompetence".
The singing of the song is regrettable and stupid. And it does vilify people already under siege.

Not condemning or actively speaking out about or doing something about people who are murdered at an alarming rate, is not "incompetence".
Various government people have condemned farm violence and murders. And even promised special focus - not sure what ever came of that.


 
Yes, removing the commandos was intentional. The ANC I think did that because they saw the commandos as a militia plus they were almost entirely made up of former apartheid soldiers and operatives. In addition to that, I think they saw it as abandoning their voters while offering special protection to mainly white farmers.

It's been 26 years...realistically, this can no longer be an excuse.
It just illustrates -once again- how the anc cares more about voters than people's lives.
(Especially when said people are perceived to only be the "white devols".)


(I know the debate about farm murder per capita and how those numbers are muddled depending on who you ask).

It's a real thing that can't be ignored, though.


Various government people have condemned farm violence and murders. And even promised special focus - not sure what ever came of that.

Which is good, of course, but we're still waiting on the head honcho to say something. In fact not so long ago, he outright declared to the world that there
was no farm murder problem in SA. (That's 100% not incompetence.)

I still stand by my point:
This whole thing is not incompetence...this is intentional.

*Side Note: I almost didn't catch the last 2 parts of your post -I'm in dark mode ;)
 
Doubt it is any sort of plan. They're just incapable of stopping crime anywhere in this country. If it was white people they plan to kill then why just farmers and not all of the other white people. Conspiracies and tinfoil hattery don't help.
Their inaction speaks louder than words. From the beginning they dismantled the structures that could protect the farmers. Fact is that a lot of people in the ANC considers business and farmers as the enemy. That mindset has not changed.
 
Totally agree with the posts saying this is intentional. If the government was serious about stopping this, they would have actually done something about this. They won't just go on tv every once in a while saying that they are worried about it, looking at you Squirrel.

This is a very very serious problem.
 
Totally agree with the posts saying this is intentional. If the government was serious about stopping this, they would have actually done something about this. They won't just go on tv every once in a while saying that they are worried about it, looking at you Squirrel.

This is a very very serious problem.

Let's go full conspiracy mode say it is intentional, now what? How do we fix it?
 
Mogamad Nazier Paulsen is a Western Cape-based Member of the National Assembly for the Economic Freedom Fighters.

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Doubt it is any sort of plan. They're just incapable of stopping crime anywhere in this country. If it was white people they plan to kill then why just farmers and not all of the other white people. Conspiracies and tinfoil hattery don't help.
Exactly. The farm attacks are often carried out with military precision, nothing stolen, or just a cellphone and landline cut, this ensures possible targets that survived / were missed can't call for help. Perhaps it is time to open your eyes to what "Kill the Boer" means, and no, it is not a metaphor for Apartheid. Have you not noticed the EFF and others calling for land, do you not know the importance of getting people of the land in Marxist rhetoric, have you not noticed that Mandela holds hands with late Joe Slovo under a massive hammer and sickle, do you really still think Communism is something to be soft on, do you get it that the ANC always has been a terrorist organization with their military branch, MK having torturing their own people. South Africa is not the la-la land that especially anglo liberals pretend it to be.
 
It's a real thing that can't be ignored, though.

OK, so a farmer is more likely to be killed than a city dweller.

Now in the city, a township dweller is much more likely to be murdered than a suburb dweller, so is that also a government plan? Genocide of poor people? But that's the ANC voting base. :unsure:

Could it be that farms are just easy targets? Similar to how a township dweller is an easier target (harder than farm, many more people around) than a suburb dweller with their alarm and armed response.
 
OK, so a farmer is more likely to be killed than a city dweller.

Now in the city, a township dweller is much more likely to be murdered than a suburb dweller, so is that also a government plan? Genocide of poor people? But that's the ANC voting base. :unsure:

Could it be that farms are just easy targets? Similar to how a township dweller is an easier target (harder than farm, many more people around) than a suburb dweller with their alarm and armed response.
It is easy to strip a farm from loads of stuff, especially after all is dead and the landline cut, but often nothing or only a cellphone is stolen, why ?
 
Exactly. The farm attacks are often carried out with military precision, nothing stolen, or just a cellphone and landline cut, this ensures possible targets that survived / were missed can't call for help. Perhaps it is time to open your eyes to what "Kill the Boer" means, and no, it is not a metaphor for Apartheid. Have you not noticed the EFF and others calling for land, do you not know the importance of getting people of the land in Marxist rhetoric, have you not noticed that Mandela holds hands with late Joe Slovo under a massive hammer and sickle, do you really still think Communism is something to be soft on, do you get it that the ANC always has been a terrorist organization with their military branch, MK having torturing their own people. South Africa is not the la-la land that especially anglo liberals pretend it to be.

I cannot confirm this. But with the rate at which our military hardware disappears, I wouldn't be surprising if these devices find legs.

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Exactly. The farm attacks are often carried out with military precision, nothing stolen, or just a cellphone and landline cut, this ensures possible targets that survived / were missed can't call for help. Perhaps it is time to open your eyes to what "Kill the Boer" means, and no, it is not a metaphor for Apartheid. Have you not noticed the EFF and others calling for land, do you not know the importance of getting people of the land in Marxist rhetoric, have you not noticed that Mandela holds hands with late Joe Slovo under a massive hammer and sickle, do you really still think Communism is something to be soft on, do you get it that the ANC always has been a terrorist organization with their military branch, MK having torturing their own people. South Africa is not the la-la land that especially anglo liberals pretend it to be.

The highlighted bit is the problematic part. We see so may threads showing how incompetent the SANDF is - you know, they can't march properly, their R4s get stolen, Lesotho or Zim could invade us at any time etc.

So where does this "military precision" come from? I would have thought it would have ruled out SANDF involvement surely?
 
OK, so a farmer is more likely to be killed than a city dweller.

Now in the city, a township dweller is much more likely to be murdered than a suburb dweller, so is that also a government plan? Genocide of poor people? But that's the ANC voting base. :unsure:

Could it be that farms are just easy targets? Similar to how a township dweller is an easier target (harder than farm, many more people around) than a suburb dweller with their alarm and armed response.

Farmers are easier targets and also usually have more stuff at home than shack dwellers.

There is also definitely a cultural aspect to some murders(extreme racism), but so far in it seems that many of them are simply robberies or even revenge killings. The problem is that they all get lumped in together into the same pot under the guise of genocide.

All we need is evidence of a genocide. Nobody is denying farm killings, nobody is excusing them, but there has to be a root cause or start to the process that makes people think it is deliberate and intentional.

We have 10000 page Trump threads on evidence, motives and theories on what Trump is doing on the toilet but when it comes to genocide we have "look at the pictures", "these guys had radio jammers", "they sing a song about shooting us".

Give meetings, give money transfers, give emails, give us photos of ANC officials meeting with killers, etc.

It is a REAL issue that NEEDS addressing, but that goes for all vulnerable south africans, not just vulnerable white farmers
 
It is easy to strip a farm from loads of stuff, especially after all is dead and the landline cut, but often nothing or only a cellphone is stolen, why ?

You keep saying this, so lets lay the ground work so we are on the same wavelength as to what often refers too, this often of yours, can you put it maybe in a % range? More than 50% or less than?

The ones I hear about on the security WA groups mostly seem to have vehicles and cash and firearms and other valuable taken.
 
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