Farm Attacks

[Moosedrool]

There is a reason the thread has the title(thread defends itself). Go read the first few pages of this thread. Go read anything etienne and marine writes. Go onto stormfront as a detour and read the **** written there. Go onto facebook/youtube and read comments.

So etienne and marine are responsible for making people turn this into a issue about race?

Also Stormfront is a white nationalist forum. Pretty much condemned as such.

i recall only joining this thread because of something you wrote

Yeah I think it was the post where I showed the president contributing his 10 cents to fuel the racist connotations.

Is BLF not about race?

Or is shouting Black first land first about something other than race?

 

[STS]

So etienne and marine are responsible for making people turn this into a issue about race?

Also Stormfront is a white nationalist forum. Pretty much condemned as such.



Yeah I think it was the post where I showed the president contributing his 10 cents to fuel the racist connotations.

Is BLF not about race?

Or is shouting Black first land first about something other than race?

Ironically I actually missed a post from you on the previous page responding to Voice, and I also responded to Voice with the exact same point you made.

I responded to you rudely and it was actually my manners that resulted in the frustrations in the thread. While the topic of white genocide has popped up a lot in this thread from inception, I can see people are trying to find solutions and make a difference for all, even if I don't think that they will be very effective. I am very sorry

 

[infscrtyrisk]

If it is genocide then the murderers are doing a poor job of it if farmers are such easy targets.

They are not such "easy targets", however it is not particularly difficult to take anyone out if one really wants to, provided that there is sufficient resolve, and the person doing it has little to lose.

It's taken them over 20 years to kill no more then 2000 by the most generous estimates (and that includes black workers & other races caught up in the violence during attacks). .

A poor argument because the ANC took over 81 years to take power since its official inception, with support from a multitude of international players, including Hollywood. Does that suggest that they were incompetent? Also your figures of "no more that 2000" are laughable and a very poor guess at best, the result of SAPS stats meddling and obfuscation. You've got a better chance of getting accurate stats for the number of babies (born and unborn) which are murdered every year.

The kill rate is also rather low for genocide. Take 2001, 962 attacks were recorded by the agricultural union (the SAPS recorded less) and those 962 attacks resulted in 124 deaths

It is not just the deaths, it is the gruesome, despicable torture and rape that these (mostly) elderly victims are made to endure before being dispatched, for ostensibly no material gain.

 

[R13...]

mind to quote the post by marine referring to Genocide?

See post #1093

 

[infscrtyrisk]

Here in the Southern Cape the farmers are planning protest action for Monday. Expect some news and pics of farmers on tractors in town.

Good luck with that. Unfortunately without specifically directed military and shockingly efficient violent effort against a large body of human beings, this too will pass without much change. But I agree that it is necessary -- part of the "told you so".

 

[infscrtyrisk]

March, block roads, wear black, change radio stations, things like this are not going to fix anything because it is actually an issue that affects everyone and nobody can fix it

Agreed. Gratuitous violence is the only option, unfortunately.

 

[infscrtyrisk]

Not at all. It made sense back then due to the uncertainty facing the country and having those type of structures in place.

But it was never replaced by something else. There is no reason why the Komandos can't be put in place again now or something similar. The country has come a long was since the end of aparatheid. There is no need to fear a structure run by the SANDF.

Ah, the kommandos, and their removal by the ANC. If ever there was proof for the government endorsement of farm attacks, this was it.

 

[Pitbull]

See post #1093

I stand corrected. Eve though I think it was mentioned before that. That being said, Marine1 a farmer? Does he now speak for the farmer community as a whole? I'm a farmer, be it a weekend farmer And I feel there are reasons for these attacks sure, but it's not genocide by any means...

 

[marine1]

Not sure if this is true

 

[marine1]

Yes I am. Crime is crime, and violence is violence, no matter where it is perpetratored. It's the same thing.

If you can't see that then you're a bigoted idiot. Moron1 indeed.

No crime is not crime and there is one idiot here and it's not me

When torture is involved it is not random crime but that doesn't fit your left wing agenda does it ?
Have you ever been involved in law enforcement or army or are you just a KB warrior?


The crime of genocide is defined in international law in the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide.

"Article II: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Guess farmers are not a group huh?

 

[marine1]

There is a reason the thread has the title(thread defends itself). Go read the first few pages of this thread. Go read anything etienne and marine writes. Go onto stormfront as a detour and read the **** written there. Go onto facebook/youtube and read comments.

i recall only joining this thread because of something you wrote

Seems like you are the only one who visits storm front.
Something you want to tell us?
By the way have any black farm owners been tortured?
I genuinely want to know

https://www.facebook.com/myiannopoulos/videos/896647323806497/

And yeah I love Milo

 

[Suspect99]

No crime is not crime and there is one idiot here and it's not me

When torture is involved it is not random crime but that doesn't fit your left wing agenda does it ?
Have you ever been involved in law enforcement or army or are you just a KB warrior?


The crime of genocide is defined in international law in the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide.

"Article II: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Guess farmers are not a group huh?

From your definition. Are farmers a "national, ethnical, racial or religious group"?

 

[Moosedrool]

https://www.facebook.com/myiannopoulos/videos/896647323806497/

And yeah I love Milo

Milo is ok but a lot of his methods in getting some of the valid conservative points across includes provocateuring. It works but isn't really the way people should be doing politics IMO.

The funniest claim from thehill.com was when leftist reporter called him a homophobic neo-nazi.



Milo: "My fiancé is a black guy." "How much black dick do I have to suck for you to stop calling me a neo-Nazi?"

See what I mean by provoking?
It's funny but it's not professional. However:

Left winged sources are scared shytless of him because he is meant to be at the top of their victim identitarianism structure. But he is a right winger. Self proclaimed liberals with a complete lack of knowledge of the word liberal constantly try to refuse giving him any platform to talk politics on.

 

[The_Mowgs]

Not sure if this is true

So them being in the SANDF makes the SANDF part of farm murders? People need help.

 

[marine1]

So them being in the SANDF makes the SANDF part of farm murders? People need help.

Just the messenger
Same as members of the army and government are involved in rhino poaching. Doesn't mean all but yea some are

 

[marine1]

Milo is ok but a lot of his methods in getting some of the valid conservative points across includes provocateuring. It works but isn't really the way people should be doing politics IMO.

The funniest claim from thehill.com was when leftist reporter called him a homophobic neo-nazi.



Milo: "My fiancé is a black guy." "How much black dick do I have to suck for you to stop calling me a neo-Nazi?"

See what I mean by provoking?
It's funny but it's not professional. However:

Left winged sources are scared shytless of him because he is meant to be at the top of their victim identitarianism structure. But he is a right winger. Self proclaimed liberals with a complete lack of knowledge of the word liberal constantly try to refuse giving him any platform to talk politics on.

He is every liberals nightmare and I love him

 

[marine1]

From your definition. Are farmers a "national, ethnical, racial or religious group"?

Well if you can't work it out.....

 

[Lucas Buck]

Not sure if this is true

Then why post it? That's how strange rumours get spread on the internet.
Even if two soldiers were involved in a murder, it doesn't mean that the military is involved in farm murders.

 

[genelock]

Then why post it? That's how strange rumours get spread on the internet.
Even if two soldiers were involved in a murder, it doesn't mean that the military is involved in farm murders.

all it means is that two soldiers were involved in a murder.

 

[f2wohf]

One solution the people in Zeerust has come up with is to have a section of land where all the farmers build homes close to each other (similar to a block in the suburbs) And that works. But not everyone has the funds to go and build a completely separate house away from their farm and not be able to be on site for their cattle (stock theft). Unless there is a massive interference or change these things will continue to happen no matter how hard we make it for them.

Funny, I mentioned that solution months ago in another topic (regarding the bankrupt farmers I think), a compound where the farmers live together and was hammered and attacked like never !